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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on March 3, 2011 at 1:07am

"There was discipline if the student didn't do this and the teacher wanted to hear each child. She would call out the ones that she couldn't hear or the ones she thought was lip synching."

 

I thought it was a person's right to not recite the pledge, student's included.  Perhaps I'm mistaken.

 

What grades were the classes?  Not that it should matter, but I can kind see how a young child would be taken less seriously for refusing to recite the pledge than a high school student.

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Permalink Reply by wisp on March 3, 2011 at 1:38am

When I was in school, we didn't have to say it. Most people stood, whether they said it or not, but some who were against it for religious reasons (they considered it to be praying to an idol) sat quietly in their seats until it was finished.

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Permalink Reply by Will H on March 3, 2011 at 5:33pm

yea im still in school, we are asked to stand but my teacher doesn't make us say it. but it is still said over intercom.

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Permalink Reply by scLovely on March 3, 2011 at 1:59am

They were both kindergarten classes. There was a non christian child in one of the classes and he was still made to say the pledge. I know he was not christian because he and another child got into an argument one day because this child told another student "your god doesn't have any powers". The christian fussed back and a couple of other ones started telling the non-christian child that he was wrong. The teacher sat back at let the christian children verbally attack this child. The teacher said she was "glad that the children are taking up for god". I wanted so badly to snap at her, but she graded my performances and reported them to my advisor. UGH.

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Permalink Reply by scLovely on March 3, 2011 at 2:15am

O and I should add that one of these 2 classes made the children say the SC state pledge as well, which says:

"I salute the flag of South Carolina and pledge to the Palmetto State love, loyalty and faith."

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Permalink Reply by Chris G on March 3, 2011 at 2:26am

Laughing my ass off.

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Permalink Reply by Will H on March 3, 2011 at 5:34pm

personally, id chew that woman out for that.

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Permalink Reply by Mo Trauen on March 17, 2011 at 12:11pm

It is completely illegal to force anyone to recite the pledge.  The pledge was not thrown out of school the way organized prayer sessions were.  Instead, the Supreme Court ruled that students had a right to refuse to recite it.  You should report these people.  Contact FFRF, the ACLU or even, gasp, the Federal authorities.

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Permalink Reply by Chris G on March 17, 2011 at 8:49pm

I agree.

PFAW, and SPLC are another organizations that will help.

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Permalink Reply by Kairan Nierde on December 5, 2012 at 10:26am

Also agree.  Once she's given you the awesome grade I'm sure you'll get, I'd take up for the children's rights.  Anonymity can be good at the beginning of a career though...

Anyway, what's the point in having a pledge, if it's compulsory?  It's supposed to be about the indivual choosing to affirm their allegiance to the nation.  Are we living in a democracy or not? (hypothetic question here, not intending any derailment)

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Permalink Reply by Melanie Dawn Molina Wood on March 21, 2011 at 8:59pm

what she did is unconstitutional and (imo) immoral :(

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Permalink Reply by Chris G on March 3, 2011 at 1:59am

The Pledge of Allegiance is probably the most morinoc thing ever written.

I pledge allegance to the flag!!!?

How about pledging allegiance to the constitution?

 

 

 

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