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Permalink Reply by Angelo on January 18, 2012 at 8:23pm

but! they are safe in the arms of their loving savior ignoring all science based PROOFS that he does not exist!

proofs ??? what kind of proofs ??

Permalink Reply by james d on January 18, 2012 at 8:56pm

Angelo

proofs of the history of the universe are clear and out there and all over this thread, yet you continue to ignore them and cling to your stone-age book of myths that has little REAL history and little REAL morality in it. your choice to ignore them over and over again is PROOF that you have no desire to actually discuss them, you just question every little word you can find in a post that requires you to say NOTHING on the issue the post has raised. it is sad that your mind is so closed to truth that you will avoid it and make shit up or rely on bad science and weak philosophy to 'prove' your sky-god still exists.

try and answer a question or a post with some dialogue and not just copy and paste more shit from your website!

thanks!

 

cheers!

Permalink Reply by Angelo on January 19, 2012 at 5:37am

proofs of the history of the universe are clear and out there and all over this thread, yet you continue to ignore them

what proofs do i ignore ? and related to what do i ignore them ?

Permalink Reply by james d on January 19, 2012 at 7:36am

and once again, you provide no discussion, no evidence, no argument, but a question to a statement that you simply chose to ignore.

we have provided evidence, arguments, discussions, philosophical arguments over and over and yet you claim to have read NO evidence to the validity of strong atheism. Sir, you either don't understand what is presented to you or are intellectually dishonest with yourself, and with us. you decide which you would prefer to believe as we will continue to reply to your assnine comments and stupid questions with fact, science, logic and reason, while you appeal to the over-all stupidity of your creationist views which have been shown to be wrong by the courts, shown to be a KNOWN misrepresentation of fact and science, shown to be nothing more than an agenda by right-wing fundamentalists clinging to the notion that their god still exists.

we will continue to laugh at your website and it's bad information which is either KNOWINGLY misleading or compiled in sheer ignorance and is genuinely your best shot at understanding the volumes of information out there that proves the universe can and does exist without your god or any of the thousands of gods you seem to conveiniantly are 'atheistic' toward. IF you can provide your best evidence that the god of the bible exists, right now, you will win approximately 15,000 converts within a few hours! that would make your sky daddy happy, wouldn't it? no, wait, he takes pleasure in sending us all to hell, i have to keep remembering that as he does everything for his own pleasure! Nice one!

cheers!

Permalink Reply by Angelo on January 19, 2012 at 11:40am

we have provided evidence, arguments, discussions, philosophical arguments over and over and yet you claim to have read NO evidence to the validity of strong atheism.

well, yes, i have read the arguments, and they are simply not compelling to me. You still due me a reason, why everything from nothing, or a eternal universe, in what form whatsoever, should be compelling. The presented answers in no way do satisfy my intellect. Neither do i understand, why they should yours, unless, you do  WANT to ignore the facts, which is what i suspect.

we will continue to reply to your assnine comments and stupid questions with fact

do you have any fact to prove strong atheism is true ?

while you appeal to the over-all stupidity of your creationist views which have been shown to be wrong by the courts

really ? you have shown nothing compelling so far. try harder....

 IF you can provide your best evidence that the god of the bible exists, right now, you will win approximately 15,000 converts within a few hours!

More than this number of people do convert every day....

Permalink Reply by james d on January 19, 2012 at 11:47am

again, you reply with nothing of substance, but criticism by baseless statements on your part!

you claim i am ignoring facts.. what facts? the ones you have posted all over your website? the ones that science has shown to be wrong? sorry, but i don't accept any 'truth' you offer as science is very clear you are wrong!

"do you have any fact to prove strong atheism is true ?"

i can play that game too...  do you have any proof strong theism is true?

we are all still waiting for you to offer any evidence to that. oh, wait, you have already admitted you don't have any so all you offer is your opinion and your philosophical bullshit as 'proof'... and you believe you have all the answers to everything... wait, maybe YOU are god.. please, let us know!

please, go and read up on strong atheism again, i think you missed it's definition....

try this for some answers to your repetitive, cyclical questions.. you should actually read the entire wealth of information there..

there is NO evidence god exists, therefore, we don't accept him or any other god can, will or does exist. is that clear yet?

cheers!

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on January 19, 2012 at 12:06pm

RE: "The presented answers in no way do satisfy my intellect."

Well, why didn't you SAY that's what you wanted? I could have located what channel Sesame Street comes on in your area and had that information for you 90 pages ago!

Now about that Primeval Octopus --?

pax vobiscum,
archaeopteryx
in-His-own-image.com

Permalink Reply by Artor on January 21, 2012 at 12:36am

"The presented answers in no way do satisfy my intellect. "

Angelo, you're in the wrong place. This is a forum for intelligent, thinking adults. If you want your intellect satisfied, you need to find a site that streams Veggie Tales and Charlton Heston marathons. It's become pretty clear that we can't help you. Run along now.

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on January 18, 2012 at 5:00pm

Actually, on a grand scale, entropy is continuous and irreversible, but on a smaller scale, entropy is reversed regularly everytime a swirl of spacedust coalesces to form a star and planets, and on an even smaller scale, everytime a car rolls off an assembly line, we build a birdhouse in our back yard, or sperm and egg unite to form a new living creature.

pax vobiscum,
archaeopteryx
in-His-own-image.com

Permalink Reply by Artor on January 21, 2012 at 12:41am

Actually, that's entropy too; a lot of chaotic, high-potential-energy dust coalesces under the force of gravity and settles into a more stable configuration. Individual hydrogen ions fuse into heavier elements because they are losing energy, giving off tremendous amounts of heat. That heat powers chemical processes which allow matter to self-organize into even more structured forms; crystals, organic compounds, self-replicating proteins, etc.

It's all driven by entropy.

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on January 21, 2012 at 1:27am

RE: "Individual hydrogen ions fuse into heavier elements"

Actually, it takes at least two supernovae to produce the spacedust that will eventually coalesce to form heavy elements such as lead and gold - and the earth (according to Archbishop Ussher) was only created in 4004 BCE; his contemporary, Sir John Lightfoot, took it a step further and decided it happened at 9 AM, by god's Timex.)

Yeah, right.

pax vobiscum,
archaeopteryx
www.in-His-own-image.com

Permalink Reply by Steve on January 18, 2012 at 2:20pm

Also, small nitpick: the accelerating expansion of the universe is explained by dark energy. Dark matter is an idea to explain why some objects like galaxies are under more gravitational influence than they should be according to the visible matter

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