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Permalink Reply by Kir Komrik on January 14, 2012 at 3:17am

Hey Angelo,

 

Please define 'god'. Does this god exist solely in this universe? If not, can you define where he exists?

 

-  kk

Permalink Reply by Angelo on January 14, 2012 at 5:59am

i have already answered this question at this  topic.

Permalink Reply by Rob Klaers on January 14, 2012 at 6:39am

Not to be rude. But that's the biggest load of crap. 

That isn't any different that the kid who says... "I have a secret.. but I won't tell you until you be my friend.. "  Then says" Now that you're my friend you have to do this first...then I'll show you my secret.." ... all just smoke and mirrors. Same as it's always been.  

Permalink Reply by Angelo on January 14, 2012 at 7:34am

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t79-who-is-god-essence-of-god

Permalink Reply by Rob Klaers on January 14, 2012 at 2:33pm

Yet again. no direct answer, because you can't give the answer. If there was a God It would be self-evident and you would be able to explain coherently. Neither of which you are capable of doing.  The Christian God, along with all the thousands of others that Man has created, is non-existent. Period. 

Angelo, many of us here have stopped being in the Easter Bunny, The Great Pumpkin, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy a long time ago.. We put God in the same category as those other imaginary beings and as such have stopped believing in It. There's no evidence of those others any more than there is for God.. 

Permalink Reply by Angelo on January 15, 2012 at 5:58pm

Yet again. no direct answer, because you can't give the answer. 

It is impossible for us, humans , to understand Gods nature in its full extent. That does however not mean, that we know many aspects , as described in the linked webpage.

 The Christian God, along with all the thousands of others that Man has created, is non-existent. Period.

absolute assertions demand absolute proofs. Have any ?

Permalink Reply by james d on January 16, 2012 at 10:49am

"It is impossible for us, humans , to understand Gods nature in its full extent. That does however not mean, that we know many aspects , as described in the linked webpage."

it is not a matter of understanding his nature, it is a matter of your claim to know he even exists yet you claim also that you can't prove that yet! so, we are left with what you claim is his holy and true word, which portrays him as misogynistic, genocidal, homophobic, infanticidal, loves incest, encourages the murder of witches and many other things your bible claims he seems to be okay with while commanding the isrealites allegedly wipe out entire nations - if you can prove any of those 'events' actually happened historically, you would become, over night, a leading archeologist by the way...

so, if you get your morality from a god you claim is incomprehensible, do you follow his book to the letter of the law and not work on the sabbath? stone those who do? or do you accept variations on these themes because NO ONE can actually live the way your god seems to think is the 'best' for humanity! sorry, we are not buying the package you god offers! humans in general, have way more worth than your god gives them!

as for proof your god does not exist, again, you continue to avoid the fact that we have NO reason to provide proof he doesn't exist as you have NO reason to prove Zeus doesn't exist, you accept he doesn't based on the fact there is NO evidence supporting his existence, which you claim about your god to! so please stop playing that stupid game! it is tiresome and boring!

thanks

Permalink Reply by Rob Klaers on January 17, 2012 at 8:15pm

absolute assertions demand absolute proofs. Have any ?

 The burden of proof is on the claimant. Basically, If I told you UFOs, Big Foot, or Nessie existed, you'd want me to provide proof. Anything which would validate those claims. That is what we've asked of you.. You have told us God exists, provide proof which validates that claim. Until you do so, he/she/they/it do no exist. Period. 

Permalink Reply by Calpurnpiso on January 12, 2012 at 4:51pm

The topic of this thread is "

"please present the best arguments for strong atheism"

1) We are evolved mutated primates that create thoughts with the BRAIN.This is a FACT.
2) The brain when suffers trauma or is sick creates GOD bizarre belief ( GOD = Winnie the Pooh, & Jesus. Children & the mentally impaired ACCEPT Jesus & Winnie the Pooh as reality. A FACT proven in a neurology lab. Hey Angelo want to submit to a brain operation & see if Zombie Jesus keep your faith in Him intact?
I bet you 1 million dollars you can not. This makes ZombieJEsus identical to Winnie the Pooh. Accept it, it is true.
Remember facts talk bullshit walks. Proving the existence of ZombieGod case closed.

...so the best argument for strong atheism which is synonymous with Good Mental Health ( sanity) is that the BRAIN is the creator of god and since it is proven in a Neurology Lab, this is strong PROOF, ZombieGod is produced by sick brain. It does NOT exist outside the brain.

Since Research Reveals Selective Brain Damage Modulates Human Spirituality ( this been the brain mechanism that creates the imaginary friend aka spiritus= air in the lungs & atmosphere), this is clear proof people that believe in god are theotards affected by a schizophrenia-like disorder. Again easily REPLICATED in a neurology lab...any ZombieJesus Believers VOLUNTEERS? 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100210124757.htm

So the best argument for strong atheism aka SANITY, is the one I'm presenting which has the SCIENCE to back it up..
Keep in mind, facts talk bullshit walks..

Calpurnpiso.
 

Permalink Reply by Calpurnpiso on January 12, 2012 at 5:18pm

Here is another argument for strong Atheism ( SANITY). Belief in God is a neurological anomaly not unlike schizophrenia, again EASILY PROVEN in a neurology lab. FYI, I'm simply the messenger providing scientific facts from various disciplines with the evidence to back them up.

Neurologist refrain to say this and not use the vernacular because people affected by  ZombieJesusSyndrome, IslamPsychosis, HinduPsychosis, JewishPsychosis and any other forms of the GodBelief Psychopathy are in positions of power enjoying SANE estates when these people are ParanoiaSchizophrenia BrainBombs waiting for a place to happen,, so the ZombieGod nuts must be treated with the utmost respect...as when deranged psychopath seen as SANE, hold the button to nuclear bombs ( ChristPsychosis infected BUSH did,,and see what his presidency wrought...thousands killed for naught)
This link is from the Psychiatry Dept in the UK 2003 where they ask God in the BRain?
Today we KNOW it is there, created by it....and a dangerous psychopathy. The infected treated with respect....A christ psychotic must be treated like a big gorilla holding a submachine gun...
ChristPsychosis is after all responsible for Pedophilia, immorality, genocide, self righteousness, intolerance, sadomasochism. perversion, molesting children brains, intellectual stagnation, devious conniving thinking, etc...

I think the WORST of insults any one can say to someone, is to call him/her a CHRISTIAN. 

http://www.psychminded.co.uk/news/news2003/april03/God%20on%20the%2...

The truth is there fro all to see. The BEST argument for strong atheism ( SANITY) is ACTING not SAYING, which implies dragging a strong ZombieChrist believer to a neurology LAB and let the brain stimulation he/she will be submitted to, to PROVE it. Actions speak louder than words....
Facts talk bullshit walks....  any takers?..hey Angelo, aren't you a DEEP believer in ZombieJEsus, how about it?...if you are afraid of the magnetic temporal lobe stimulation, I'll give you a DaturaPyotl tea and putting you in heaven...you'll see Zombie Jesus, talk to him...speak in tongues as your fellow ChristPsychotics....I'll be videoing everything for my research files...You'll have the Christian Trip of yuoir life..better that the Jerusalem Syndrome...

AHH..it is so good to be mentally healthy aka athirst & slap ChristPsychotics with demonstrable facts..

 Here is the Jeriusalem syndrome..enjoy it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFU8vCHZBbc

Calpurnpiso..only the FACTS ma'am.

Permalink Reply by Bert V. on January 12, 2012 at 6:47pm

Terrific...

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on January 12, 2012 at 7:26pm

Calpumpiso - this might interest you:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
--Mohandas Gandhi --

pax vobiscum,
                                                                                                             archaeopteryx                                                                                                                              
in-His-own-image.com

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