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Permalink Reply by Ceci on January 2, 2012 at 7:36am

that's it. :)

Permalink Reply by STEVIE NICHOLL on January 10, 2012 at 5:48pm

Such a simple yet great way to put it.  I don't get how people don't understand this.  Beyond me.

Permalink Reply by Angelo on December 26, 2011 at 12:47pm

the question is incomplete

No. My question is complete and well defined. 

Permalink Reply by Teri G on December 26, 2011 at 12:50pm

Not really.

Permalink Reply by bob spencer on December 26, 2011 at 4:29pm

brilliant answer

Permalink Reply by Rocky john on December 26, 2011 at 1:28pm

Atheists no more need to prove god does not exist than a-unicornists need to prove unicorns do not exist. It is virtualy impossible to prove a negative(except in very rigidly defined cases) so it is up to the person making the positive claim to prove he's case. So it is nonsensical for you to ask us to prove god does not exist as that is impossible and most people know that.

Now then the best evidence that god does not exist is the fact that theists have no real evidence for hes existence and also how every argument they make fails on some level or another and proves nothing.You can also bring the god of the gaps into this . So then if theists can not even make a semi decent  case for a gods existence then the default position is disbelief in its existence, it is as simple as that

Permalink Reply by Ron V on December 26, 2011 at 1:22pm

If you haven't already read them, I refer you to Atheism, The Case Against God (Smith) and God, the Failed Hypothesis (Stenger)

 

Permalink Reply by Akshay Bist on December 26, 2011 at 1:45pm

You've got this backwards.

For me, atheism isn't about proof that god exists, but about the absence of any credible evidence for the existence of god. No evidence, not reason to believe in it.

Permalink Reply by Teri G on December 27, 2011 at 3:22am

Exactly! But this person doesn't seem to understand this. Besides the fact that the burden of proof lies on the believers, not us.

Permalink Reply by Angelo on December 27, 2011 at 4:57am

and what evidence do you have on hand, the universe is self existent ? 

Permalink Reply by Teri G on December 27, 2011 at 6:10am

What exactly does this have to do with the burden of proof? You claim there is a god, it is not the non-believers burden to prove that there is NOT a god, but for the believers to prove their theory of there being a god in the first place.

It is impossible to prove the negative of something, therefore your question isn't relevant.

On your self existance of the universe question, as I stated in my previous comment further up in the thread, if you read up on the vacuum fluctuation theory, it provides a relevant explanation of the origins of the universe ABSENT of a god like interference.

The universe no longer needs a god to help explain it, therefore the theory of god is no longer applicable. We no longer need the "Goddidit" explanation as the generations before us did, because we now know the truth and are getting closer to an explanation of the origins of the universe which is one of the last questions that scientists have been unable to answer.

Permalink Reply by erik112358 on December 27, 2011 at 8:27am

To be fair, his OP is directed towards Strong Atheists, who make the claim that there is no god - not just a rejection of the claim that there is a god.

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