Carracci - The Butchers Shop - 1583
Who besides psychopaths doesn't believe that humans (once born, at least) have a right to life? Such a belief is a part of every major document pertaining to human rights, from the US Declaration of Independence ("inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness") to the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights ("right to life, liberty, and security of person"). There's a basic theme running through various claims about rights found in all such documents: People have the right to have other people leave them the hell alone! It's not just a "hollow metaphysical claim," it's a principle that humans have almost universally agreed to that other people shouldn't have the right to intentionally take our life (i.e., MURDER us) regardless of how painless or unexpected it is or whether anyone else finds out. Do you also think it would be perfectly okay for someone to roofie and rape you, as long as they didn't get you pregnant, give you a disease, or injure you, and as long as no one found out? The right to not be exploited by others, to not have things done to us that we haven't consented to just because some other person feels like it, is pretty basic. It's astounding that you would not accept such a fundamental tenet of a civilized society.
Honestly Heather you keep bringing up oysters, and I can tell you that even in the vegan community there is a debate going on that some vegan do find it okay to eat oysters and mussels. I personally don't because I don't like oysters or seafood and I don't agree with alot (not all, so just calm down) with some of the farming used for oysters, clams, shrimp etc. Believe it or not i'm alot like you. I love food, I love to prepare food and learn about it. I disagree with the meat industry and the dairy industries and I really don't have the time and energy to go around Ohio trying to find a farm that will meet my requirement to consume dairy and I agree with you only eating game meat, but I just lost the taste for any meat over the years andI I have to admit I do get emotional about killing animals, that is my personal opinion and I UNDERSTAND THAT, plus if my body doesn't need it why force it...the only way I would eat dairy again is if I raised the goats myself. That is something I am not prepared to do. These are the reasons why I'm a vegan, nowhere did I say I was better then you or have better morels then you or anything. Since I have time to cool down I can honestly say I got very defense in the past but the comment you and Stephen were making were truly irritating. You stated you thought vegan men were too scrawny and Stephen stated vegan women looked sick.It's stereotyping and it's wrong. I'm sorry that you have had bad experiences with vegan at your restaurant but I assure you that I'm as open as they come.....Obviously since I do live in a small town my husband and I are the only vegan in a 100 mile radius so most of my friends are not vegans and no I never get preachy or self righteous with them....ever. I think your mis conceptions about a vegan lifestyle might be why you feel the need to argue against it. And if anything just freaking try if for a week, it makes you feel go then do it...if not....different strokes.
Not go forth and tear me apart.....
Scrawny vegans? heh. 6'4" 250 lbs, haven't had anyone ever call me scrawny. =)
I completely agree Beth! I have seen a few veggies who only replace meat with bread and cheese and don't understand why they feel so bad after the switch. I cook with only whole food ingredients and urge other to do the same even if they aren't vegans.