No Offense to all atheist but.......
,,,,, catchy title ahe! , any way back to the real topic ,i have been an atheist since the age of reasoning (when i was 12) , I've always kept it to my self never joined any groups ,but lately I've joined a couple of forums and face book's , what i have noticed is i am ashamed of calling my self an atheist ,i have noticed that all of these people are only enjoying bashing religious beliefs ,"holy" books ,creeds and religious people (not that i don't enjoy bashing them) , but the issue in hand is that all of these people don't really understand atheism , i had a chat with a lot of them non of them read or know any thing about existentialism (and the few who now are either miss-quoting Friedrich Nietzsche's quotes or even mispronouncing the name !).
but any way back to the point ,when i read see these neo-atheist guys they just seem to me like an atheist version of a Spanish inquisitor ,non of them really understand the true enslaving power of religion , the danger of human divinity , the true power of religious brain washing ; non of them ever read Thus spake Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche , non of them ever read the Existentialism and Humanism Lecture by Jean-Paul Sartre , non of them ever read Alamut by Vladamir Bartol , non of them ever read the Holy and the Holy Grail , non of them read the satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie , non of them ever read the Devils of Loudun by Aldus Huxly ,non of them ever read Atheist Manifesto by Michel Onfray,,,, (Wow! that's a long list , but its enough to make a point ).
so is it just me ?
but any way back to the point ,when i read see these neo-atheist guys they just seem to me like an atheist version of a Spanish inquisitor ,non of them really understand the true enslaving power of religion , the danger of human divinity , the true power of religious brain washing ; non of them ever read Thus spake Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche , non of them ever read the Existentialism and Humanism Lecture by Jean-Paul Sartre , non of them ever read Alamut by Vladamir Bartol , non of them ever read the Holy and the Holy Grail , non of them read the satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie , non of them ever read the Devils of Loudun by Aldus Huxly ,non of them ever read Atheist Manifesto by Michel Onfray,,,, (Wow! that's a long list , but its enough to make a point ).
so is it just me ?
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Permalink Reply by Chelsea Sherman on -
I love Vonnegut. Slaughterhouse 5 was the first book I read of his a few years ago, and now I can't remember what it was about. I recently re-read Cat's Cradle.
As for this post, you can't be so hard on people. Just because they may not be as educated as you are doesn't mean they don't want to learn. I haven't read any of those books (although I'm reading the bible right now) but I have wanted to read Nietzsche and I do want to do more reading in general. But as long as you have the intent I don't think that makes a person ignorant.
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Permalink Reply by Brian Stewart on -
I read most of the books and especially Nietzsche but I've also read different versions of the Christian Bible, the Qu'ran, the Vedic Verses and many Buddhist books as well as research books by theologians and philosophers. At the end of the day some of these are good (even the Bible has some good philosophies) but being a skeptic and an atheist (they could be mutually exclusive) one must question some of the books and rubbish some people including atheists, write...for example Dan Brown's "Da Vinci Code" admittedly fictional but the impact was enormous as if accurate...
and as most of the comments here make the point, the path to atheism is personal in each person's case and no atheist should be required to defend his/her position and neither should we as atheists judge others because they don't hold the same view or knowledge base. That said it's fun arguing and debating issues and I as a strong atheist, have learned a lot just by participating in these forums...one can never know enough!
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Permalink Reply by Chelsea Sherman on
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I didn't read the book but I saw the divinci code. It wasn't very good. And I had no idea it was written by an atheist.
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Permalink Reply by Matt Coulthurst on -
It was written by an idiot - although I guess he could be an atheist too. The god-botherers don't have a monopoly on stupid.
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Permalink Reply by Noor on -
i put lots of anger in islam ... because as a women ... islam put his anger on my kind
when mohamed say that his god made us less brains ???
I will kiss his a... h....
sorry
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Permalink Reply by Vernard Mercader on -
Well, I salute you for being an atheist at 12. But, I believe your point is, that the neo-atheists haven't read the literary works that you have mentioned? I'm not to assume, but they may have or may have not, if not all, most or some of what you mentioned.
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Permalink Reply by Ronald Clifford Peters on -
You don't mention reading Darwin, or Thomas Huxley, Aldous' grandpa. They poked the first big holes in Genesis that brought the whole Judeo-Christian edifice crumbling down in the minds of those with eyes to see. But maybe you should start a discussion group for intellectuals interested in the intricacies of the historical and philosophical underpinnings of atheism, knowledge of which is not a prerequisite to being a well-informed modern atheist. Clearly you have offended some people who arrived at atheism by a different route. Much of what those great authors said can be found in the works of Dawkins and others who are more accessible to the modern audience.
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Permalink Reply by Ryan E. Hoffman on -
You've read all those books? You think it might help you write a bit better. Just sayin...
*Above post is meant for ribbing sake only and is in no way indicative of any sort of argument I may or may not make*
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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on -
Ribbing aside, he may (or may not) be writing in a secondary language. Given how shoddy my French and German have become over the years and my level of discomfort at using them, I'm not very quick to take a shot at anyone making the effort to cross a language barrier into my native tongue.
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Permalink Reply by Ryan E. Hoffman on
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I suppose I should have added, "not serious."
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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on
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Why does everyone assume that the other person doesn't get the joke just because they make a point against it? I thought that the 'Ribbing aside...' acknowledged, unambiguously, that I understood you were kidding around.
Though it may not be apparent, I'm being a little facetious here.
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Permalink Reply by Esam Rivera on -
I thought I’ve mentioned that my writing takes place while being under the influence of Johnny Walker‘s finest whiskey .
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