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Permalink Reply by paddo on July 21, 2010 at 10:14am

I once saw a lifesaver at a beach near my place request a mother of three to put her top back on because her children were present. Thats right. It was "offensive" to this man that a mother was topless in front of her own children. I don't know how he thought they had been sustained through the first months of life. To make it even more screwed up he weighed about 150kg and had on nothing more than a pair of speedos ("budgie smugglers" as they are called in my part of the world). There was little doubt as to who was the more offensive.

The lady stood her ground with the support of other beachgoers and we actually made the guy go and put on a t-shirt.

I don't think he saved any lives that day and my bet is that he eventually went home to furtively watch porn.

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Permalink Reply by matt.clerke on July 3, 2011 at 9:13pm

I cant help but think about the children here...this lady tells you "There is little kids playing."....If they are playing then they clearly do not care much about the naked boobies. Clearly the issue with your boobies is HER issue, not the children's.

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Permalink Reply by Don Seavers on July 20, 2011 at 4:31pm

This whole discussion and most other topics all falls back on society's twisted perception on what Is "ok" and what is not. I give you major kudos for walking on to a state side beach with no top. Standing up for you and other womens figure is awesome. I bet if you walked onto a beach with same skin color stickers on your nipples I'm not really sure anyone would know what to do. That's like a woman walking into the grocery store in the middle of the summer wih a bikini top on and everyone is ok wih it. But I guarantee if that same woman walked in with a BRA on it would be socially unacceptable.

As far as the nigger thing goes, I agree with almost everyones post I read. It's all good till the white guy says it. Cant stand double standards.

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Permalink Reply by Bill on July 20, 2010 at 6:50pm

Just talking about boobies with someone who actually has a great pair interferes with my ability to analyze anything!

Actually, this is a very fun and interesting conversation. It is exposing the impact that Christian sexual repression has had on many of us...

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Permalink Reply by Wesley on July 20, 2010 at 9:25pm

I volunteer my services if you ever decide you want to try and conquer this phobia of yours. *WINK*

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Permalink Reply by kvnvk on July 20, 2010 at 6:15pm

well honestly it does seem ridiculous to me that it is such an issue, and I'm past the age where a woman's naked breast is going to get me all "hot and bothered" so to speak. and Sophie, your story seems to be fairly innocuous, not like you were shaking them around and showing them off, but yet "someone" found it offensive you were at the beach without a top. really what's the big deal? I'd think if children were better educated and informed about sexuality there would be less of this childish prudishness going on among so-called adults in this country.

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Permalink Reply by Reggie on July 20, 2010 at 6:47pm

I am not past the age where a woman's breast will no longer get me all hot and bothered. If I saw Sophie at the beach topless, I have to admit, it would drive me a little crazy. I would be the creepy guy ogling. I can't help it. I really love women.

I remember taking my niece to our community water park years ago and I was glad when we finally got out of there. Surrounded by so many young women and girls in tiny bikinis, many whose ages were younger than their bodies suggested (this thought really made me uncomfortable), and a warm blooded American male in the midst of this, I literally couldn't think straight.

Women, and especially half nude (or nude) women, have profound effects on many males. Perhaps it is not the children that people are worried about, but maintaining a social order? Women don't want other women tempting their men with their naked boobies? And men don't want their wives or girlfriends advertising the goods to other men? The children could really care less, I'd bet.

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Permalink Reply by Matt on July 20, 2010 at 7:51pm

I think I'm going have to half agree with Reggie on this one, at least in the bikini scenario. Jail bait is the problem, so many under age girls these days look like they are 18+ not only because of the clothing or lack of clothing they wear, but also just because of their physical body type. I live 15 minutes away from the beach here in Florida and I got to say the beach is quite possibly the most nerve racking place to be. It's stressful enough worry about if a girl is legal in a normal situation, but sitting there and having to judge a half naked girl can be down right infuriating. The need for clothing is mostly to keep us men out of trouble.

That being said, I think it also is very dependent on the location and the actual intent of the nudity. We have all seen nude bodies in art work from centuries past and modern, no one even thinks twice about the nudity they see. However something like Girls Gone Wild is some scandalous shit. I think this is because of the reason for the nudity. When the call for nudity is for sexual desire, i.e. girls flashing their boobs every where, it's considered vulgar because of the desired reaction. However, when it's something that is just suppose to be there and isn't suppose to spark any reaction people seem to be more accepting.

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Permalink Reply by Lindsey on July 20, 2010 at 7:59pm

The men who frequent the topless beaches in Europe don't seem to have any problems with it :P

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Permalink Reply by Matt on July 20, 2010 at 8:06pm

That's because it's such a common aspect of their beach going experience that it doesn't matter anymore. Breasts still arouse most men in the states because we are essentially told they should because we aren't allowed to view them. Make them an every day aspect of the beach going experience and the physical reaction moves onto some other trigger.

Basically, because they are taboo in the states, they are going to remain taboo for a long time. The undesired reaction of the nudity can't be removed until the taboo is removed, and the taboo won't be removed until the reaction disappears. A nice little circle for us.

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Permalink Reply by Reggie on July 20, 2010 at 8:09pm

Yep. Sounds like circular reasoning, but it is true. Boobs are taboo because they are taboo.

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Permalink Reply by Eoganacht on July 21, 2010 at 1:32am

Boobs are taboo because they are taboo.

Damn!

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