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Permalink Reply by Student of Knowledge on February 26, 2012 at 12:45am

The “visitors” seek to establish themselves through four areas of activities.

What do these ET Collectives do in our world?  They are here to exploit the world and appropriate our resources.  However, they cannot breathe the atmosphere and they cannot withstand germs.  Despite all their advanced technology, they are not able to live in this world.  So, they need humans to work for them.  These ET Collectives are then here to acquire resources, human allegiance, and to covertly conquer the world eventually. 

1. They seek to gain influences over individuals in positions of power and authority through their power of persuasions.  The promise of greater power, greater technology, and world domination will intrigue and incite many individuals.  And it is these individuals with whom the visitors will seek to establish a liaison.  www.AlliesOfHumanity.org   Look at the world very objectively.  Then you will see this occurring.
2. They seek to gain people’s allegiance by manipulating their religious values and impulses, for they understand that humanity’s greatest abilities also represent its greatest vulnerability.  Several groups of the visitors wish to establish themselves as spiritual agents because they know how to speak in the Mental Environment.  They can communicate to people directly, and unfortunately, because there are very few people in the world who can discern the difference between a spiritual voice and the visitors’ voice, the situation becomes very difficult. 

   www.AlliesOfHumanity.org    It will be extremely rare, indeed, that anyone will hear divine voice.  Have you seen people who claim that they hear divine voices?  Yet, those people cannot discern divine voice from the voices of the ET Collectives who pose as divine presence.  What they hear will not have the Power of God, but rather coaxing and allurement with what people want (spiritual uplifting, peace on Earth, solutions to global issues, etc. among other things) and disempowerment of humanity (posing as benevolent beings here to help the humanity fight against other groups of the ET Intervention).  They will say and do anything to gain human allegiance.  Alas, their words are only seduction and empty promises.     

3. They seek to establish themselves in the world and to have people become used to this presence.  To serve this purpose, they will create establishments here, though not in view.  These establishments will be hidden, but they will be very powerful in casting an influence on human populations that are near them.  The alien presence in the world is growing.  It is growing every day, every year.  Many more people are falling under its persuasion, losing their ability to know, becoming confused, and distracted, believing in things that can only weaken them and make them impotent in the face of those who would seek to use them for their own purposes.  The “visitors” seek to have people believe that the visitors are their ancestors, that the visitors are their home.  Many people want to believe, and so they believe.  People want to give over their personal authority, and so it is given over.  People want to see friends and salvation in the visitors, and so this is what they are shown.   www.AlliesOfHumanity.org  Do you see this occurring in the world?  
4. They seek to establish themselves through interbreeding.  They cannot live in this environment.  They need our physical stamina.  They need our natural affinity with the world.  They need our reproductive abilities.  They also want to bond with us because they understand that this creates allegiance.  This, in a way, establishes their presence here because the offspring of such a program will have blood relations in the world and yet will have allegiance to the visitors.  They want humanity to believe in them and to serve them.  They want humanity to work for them.  They will promise anything, offer anything, and do anything to achieve this goal.  www.AlliesOfHumanity.org   You’ve heard of human-alien hybrids, haven’t you?

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on February 26, 2012 at 4:59am

RE: "coaxing and allurement with what people want (spiritual uplifting, peace on Earth, solutions to global issues, etc. among other things)"

Do you think they could get my VCR light to quit blinking, "12:00," "12:00," "12:00"?

pax vobiscum,
archaeopteryx
www.in-His-own-image.com

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Permalink Reply by Rob Klaers on March 4, 2012 at 2:13am

Arch.. 

You still have a VCR..? Man, you're so behind the times.. 

lol

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on March 4, 2012 at 4:13am

What do you expect? I'm a prehistoric bird, for cryin' out loud! How many other prehistoric birds do you know who are lucky enough to have VCR's?

Alright then --

pax vobiscum,
archaeopteryx
www.in-His-own-image.com

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Permalink Reply by Milos Cakovan on February 17, 2012 at 2:11pm

I find it interesting that god always chooses to speak to someone when they are alone. How come god, or the ET's or whatever else people claim to talk to, don't show up at Time Square during rush hour?

Why is it always the lone nut on the mountain? Wouldn't you be much more believable if everyone saw you? That is if you existed at all.

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on February 17, 2012 at 6:42pm

Funny that!

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Permalink Reply by Student of Knowledge on February 21, 2012 at 1:31pm

Hi Milos,

Who might this “you” be that you speak of?  Are you referring to God, the Messenger, or me? 

Would you expect a busy body at Time Square during rush hour to receive God’s Message? 

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Permalink Reply by Milos Cakovan on February 21, 2012 at 1:36pm

Hello SoK,

By "you" I do mean god.

And yes, I absolutely expect a busy body at Time Square during rush hour to receive god's message. Actually I expect EVERY busy body in TS to receive the exact same message at the exact same time. And for an all powerful, all knowing, omnipotent and omnipresent being, that task should be a piece of cake. In fact, why doesn't god just appear as a 900ft tall version of itself, and just do perform some godly feats of power to SHOW to us that it exists, not rely on ancient, and now modern ramblings of madmen and con artists.

I mean if it could create the universe, create light and darkness before creating the sun, then yes, I absolutely expect that, and even more.

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Permalink Reply by Student of Knowledge on February 26, 2012 at 12:41am

Hi Milos,

Did you expect God to post a response to you in this discussion?  You’re addressing God in your post.

You bring up an idea of how God could present God-self in physical manifestation and speak to every individual in a large area.  I doubt you’re the only one who wishes God would just make God’s Presence and God’s Message conspicuous.  For those who cannot experience divine presence because they do not truly desire to have any relationship with God, physical evidences (voice or image) of God would seem the proof of God’s existence. 

Unfortunately, such religious and spiritual motivations will also be utilized by the ET Intervention in its endeavor to gain human allegiance, by manipulating human desire to experience God.  The ET Intervention is capable of projecting images via holograms: the images of saints, teachers, angels, and images that are held dear and sacred within our world.  They are able to speak directly to individuals in the mental environment.  And because most people have not gained the skills to discern in the mental environment, they will be very confused and regard these voices from ET Intervention as Divine Voice. 

So do you see why God’s employing such methods as you described would not succeed the way you presume?  Though there are many people who may desire to have relationships with God, not everyone is ready for such direct involvement with Divine presence.          

You do not know the way to God, but God knows the way to you. 

http://wp.newmessage.org/how-god-speaks-to-the-world/  

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on March 4, 2012 at 1:08am

Hello Stud - missed you :)

Did you expect god to post a response to you in this discussion?

Ah no, actually, Time Square is a good spot - as Milos said, 900 ft version will do just fine. But I just don't think will happen - funny that.

How is the lovely Marshall going - still scaring people?

No god - no talking angels, no et's - no fear.

And to you archaeopteryx, play nice!

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on March 4, 2012 at 4:08am

RE: "And to you archaeopteryx, play nice!"

Moi?

pax vobiscum,
archaeopteryx
www.in-His-own-image.com

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on March 4, 2012 at 7:27am

Yes, you, don't play the innocent with me!!!!!RAFLMFAO

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