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Permalink Reply by Student of Knowledge on October 18, 2011 at 6:16pm

 

Hi Suzanne,

Don’t forget the Bubonic Plague. There have, indeed, been many times throughout the human history, when people thought it was the end of human civilization. There have, indeed, been growing economic hardship and political instability, catastrophic weather, loss of arable land and water (which by the way is a major issue in Australia, as you must know), pandemic diseases, etc., in the past. It is a state of physical reality. But consider the world with all of the above issues plus declining energy and natural resources, escalating worldwide conflict, and the dire circumstances arising from “visitation” by the intelligent beings from outer space, all converging at this time. Suzanne, the future will not be like the past.

As I have told Fred in this blog, these resource-seeking aliens are neither angels nor devils. They are just three-dimensional beings that have depleted resources on their planet a long ago and now must travel the space in search of resources. I have written a quote relevant to our discussion, from the Allies of Humanity – Book II in my response to Fred in this forum. When you state that you don’t believe in aliens, I’m going to presume that you mean you don’t believe in their existence or their “visitation” in this solar system, rather than not believing in them as some angelic or demonic figures, for they are neither. I’m going to ask you the same exact question I asked Fred. Can you tell me what you thought of the Disclosure Conference 2011, presented by the former air force officers from around the world?

The ETs are indisputably here; they are carrying out some very disturbing activities in a very clandestine manner. They are taking advantage of the ignorance of the humanity about their Intervention and of the weak and divided humanity to further their agenda. Their final goal is to conquer this world covertly. You can see how effective their Pacification Program is when you look around the world including yourself and others who deny the existence of ETs, despite the Disclosure Conference and a mountain of evidence that proves their ongoing “visitation” and activities. If people do not wake up to the reality but remain asleep because of the ETs’ Pacification Program, these ETs can easily conquer this world without even firing a shot. You cannot undermine the skills these ETs possess of influencing and manipulating thoughts in the mental environment. You or others will continue to remain pacified or ignorant of the ET Intervention. Ignorance, denial, and/or inaction among the human population are precisely what the ET Intervention hopes to accomplish through their Pacification Program. Why?

As I have mentioned before in this forum, the region in which this solar system is located is quite an inhabited area in the galaxy. Commerce and trade have long been established; in order to maintain order, rules of engagement and code of conduct have been established as well. According to such regulation, no one is allowed to conquer any world by force because it disrupts the already established commerce and trade routes and agreements. So, in order to acquire resources from young, immature, ignorant races like the humanity without using force, they must conquer worlds covertly. Because there are others in the outer space watching this planet, the only way these ETs (called Collectives that are not respected by other worlds, the way pirates or black-market traders are not respected in human society) can conquer this world is, if they make it appear as though the humanity is welcoming them.

That is one of the reasons for the Pacification Program they work upon the humanity. As a result of the program, there are many human beings who remain ignorant of the Extraterrestrial Intervention regardless of the mountain of evidence. For these people who are still asleep, no amount of evidence will enable them to see the reality as is; they will reject the reality. And then there are apologists and representatives of these ETs, who have completely fallen under the persuasion of the ET Intervention. They will claim that the very ETs that abduct human beings against their will, perform some very disturbing experiments on them, and here to conquer the world covertly are friendly and benevolent beings and that humanity should welcome them. Such people, from my experience, will often become infuriated when they encounter opposing perspective.

It will not be the end of human history despite the Great Waves of Change events and the extraterrestrial beings’ schemes. But it will be the end of human civilization as we know it. Human freedom and self-determination may be lost forever to these extraterrestrial resource-seekers because the humanity refused to heed the warnings, refused to get educated about the reality as is, and refused to prepare itself for the future.

It is a very grave prospect, indeed.

You asked me whether I think it is strange that only one person supposedly knows about the Extraterrestrial Intervention, whether Marshall Vian Summers is the only Messenger, whether he’s the only person in the world, worth telling, and why god doesn’t go on tv around the world and tell everybody. These are all legitimate questions and I will try to answer them.

What would, indeed, happen if there were more than one Messenger? Whom would you listen and whose Messages from God would you consider to be “more correct?” There would be much confusion, conflict, and perhaps even competition among these messengers. So it has always been that when a Messenger was brought into the world, there has always been only one Messenger of that time; there has been one Messenger in a period of about a millennium.

        2390 BC < t < 1390 BC Moses (1000 years)
        1390 BC < t < 390 BC Buddha (1000 years)
         390 BC < t < 570 AD Jesus (960 years)
         570 AD < t < 1570 AD Muhammad (1000 years)
         570 AD < t < 2570 AD (?) Marshall (1000 years)

          (all the left inequalities should be less than or equal to rather than <)

So, for the question, whether he is the only person worth telling about the ET Intervention, I must answer that he is the only Messenger of this era and he has been and will be the only one receiving the New Message from God through the Angelic Presence during this era. This prevents the Message from becoming misinterpreted or corrupted through transmission to more than one messenger; this allows the Message to remain in its purity. Because the Allies of Humanity (physical beings from several races living in this galaxy and they are not the same as Angelic Presence) came to observe the ET Intervention at the request of the Angelic Presence, they, too, would speak only to the Messenger, Marshall Vian Summers, for the same reason that Angelic Presence speaks through only one individual.

Regarding the ET Intervention, there are many people who do know about the extraterrestrial presence “visiting” this world but they are often confused about the intention, goal, and the activities of the ETs. How can they not? How can human beings know about life in the universe if they haven’t even been able to travel farther than the earth’s moon?

So why doesn’t god go onto tv and broadcast it? I’m not sure whom you are referring to as god. Marshall isn’t god; he is the Messenger. God doesn’t micromanage individuals’ life or individual planet even. God communicates God’s Will through the Angelic Presence who communicates through the Messenger who communicates the New Message from God to the students of Knowledge, who communicate it to others who are not aware. The transmission of God’s Will and God’s Message is accomplished through relationships in this manner. If your question meant why Marshall doesn’t go on tv and broadcast the New Message from God, I think you’ve probably observed how people reacted when I came on board this forum. I’m not even the Messenger and this is an atheists’ web site, not a religious web site. Yet, the resistance against the New Message from God and hostility towards me were quite perceptible. So I cannot imagine the repercussion if Marshall attempted to broadcast this on tv…, that is, of course, if any tv program had invited him to speak on their programs in the first place. Yet, he has been invited to some radio talk show for an interview. Here is a link to one of the interviews: http://alliesofhumanity.org/interviews-marshallsummers-alliesofhuma...

As you can see, while the humanity is in desperate need to read the Allies of Humanity briefings in order to become aware of the ET Intervention and to receive the New Message from God to prepare for the future which will be unlike the past, there are many obstacles. But I feel that it is too important to give up. So I continue to speak out about them, despite resistance, rejections, and unkindness.

Suzanne, I was not entrenched in Catholicism. If I remember correctly, you were born into a Catholic family. And no, I didn’t forget that you are an atheist. But here is a quote from the Teaching “God, Knowledge, and Angelic Presence”: http://newmessage.org/ee/index.php/special-teachings/god-knowledge-.... I thought it was very appropriate for you.

Whether you are religious or not, whether you believe in a religious teaching and adhere to that teaching or whether you claim to have no religious affiliation, your progress is entirely dependent upon your connection to Knowledge. There are individuals who lead major religious institutions who have no awareness of Knowledge and do not value it and perhaps even fear it, thinking it would lead them into chaos or that it would defy their religious beliefs or lead them into grave doubt and uncertainty. They will cling to their ideas and their beliefs and avoid the power of redemption that God has placed within them. Then there are people who will claim no religious affiliation, but who will experience and follow the power of Knowledge. They will have a chance to really redeem themselves through great service to others and to the world.
Whether you are religious or not is not the emphasis here. Religion can be very helpful if it is understood correctly, if it is seen as a pathway to Knowledge. But if it is held simply as a network of beliefs and social obligations, then it is moving in the wrong direction.

You may not think you have experienced God through Knowledge so you reject God altogether. But have you had a very profound insight which you were surprised that it came from you? While Knowledge is very, very vast, such moment is an indication that Knowledge was expressing through you.

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on October 19, 2011 at 2:00am

Dear Student -

 

Truth has left  marshall's room.

 

My first profound insight came when I realised how Garden of Eden just doesn't work - so when I made a study of a bible, realised what a despot, what an evil book I was reading, that it was myth and legend heaped on the shoulders of Pagans and others.

That was my epiphany  - it is because of the bible that I can't believe in god.

My journey of learning about christianity is the reason I am now an Atheist.

This is the god that talks to marshall - why would I listen to a bloke that listens to a god, that I feel, think, believe - doesn't exist. No, I am never surprised that my answers came from me. It is called Logic.

But I am CONSTANTLY awe inspired by many people on this site, and in this world - their knowledge, their insight, their humanity, their humour.

Religion cannot be helpful to me. The religion you follow does not have enough good in it.

Understand how people hide behind religion is KNOWLEDGE, as your marshall. Whether I am religious or not - what the???? you are talking about a god - what is believing in god or not - not a religion - once again, not logical.

You just keep on believing marshall talks to god, and the aliens are here, and you will have wasted your life.

Marshall could not con me because I am an Atheist, you are catholic by indoctrination from a catholic family - that's where your premise falls over.

I kicked god and therefore fear out - you kept on believing.

Marhsall can only con people who already believe in god.

Religion is not a pathway to knowledge, it is a pathway for charlatans, con men, shonks and shamans and your marshall is all of these.

The aliens are gods creatures, we are god's creatures, if they take us over, it is all part of god's plan, as we were told by god, to take over the earth, and subdue every living thing on this earth.

Your god kept banging on about how he is omnipotent, he knows all, he is all powerful, yet he can't stop the aliens?????

Who made the world - god made the world

Who made the universe - god made the universe

Who made humans - god made humans

Who made aliens - god made aliens

Therefore, it must be gods plan for them to take over the earth. Aliens are thousands of years ahead of us, zipping around the galaxies, what clever little aliens they are. Why did god make them so much more advanced and scientific than us?

The only threat to humans are other humans - oh, and also maybe sharks, oh, and funnel webs, oh, and that maggot that burrows into the brain through an eyeball - these are also all of god's creatures.

 

Cheers - Suzanne

 

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Permalink Reply by Student of Knowledge on October 22, 2011 at 4:48pm

Hi Suzanne,

It isn’t God or god that speaks to Marshall because God does not speak, let alone speak any particular language. God translates God’s Will through Angelic Presence who then translates God’s Will to Marshall. Marshall is the conduit who receives God’s Message through Angelic Presence watching over this world.

I understand that many people feel religions have corrupted humanity and want nothing to do with any of them. That is understandable because, historically, some of those in the position of power have, indeed, used and misused religions to gain profits, or take control over their people or others. Being religious doesn’t necessarily indicate that that the person understands his/her religion. Now, I’m not sure what you mean by “Understand how people hide behind religion is Knowledge.”

Again, Marshall didn’t con me into believing anything. I have said in one of the posts in this forum, that I was already studying the Steps to Knowledge and the Great Community Way of Knowledge for a year before I even met Marshall. When I found out about ETs that are technologically more advanced and possess powerful skills in the mental environment are “visiting” this world, I thought that the humanity was completely helpless against them. I took a leap of faith in commencing the study of Steps to Knowledge. I found out later that the humanity is not completely helpless against these ETs despite their seeming advantages, for the humanity has a great power within each individual s/he is not yet aware of, and there is a way to drive the ETs out of our world. Also, I discovered that in the community of students of Knowledge, diversity of religious backgrounds as well as non-religious backgrounds can be found, among which are Buddhism, Catholic Christianity, Protestant Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc..

To blame God for different rates of evolution is irrational. You would have to expect all creatures from the tiniest germs to the most advanced society in the universe to have the same technology. For otherwise, someone might think God is being unfair. So, clearly, same rate of technological or intellectual development cannot be expected. Such stance stem from anthropocentric and human-supremacy view. Humanity needs to realize that it is neither the center of the physical universe, let alone of all the universe(s) in all dimensions, nor the most intelligent, or technologically or scientifically advanced beings in the Universe. In fact, human beings are not all that intelligent despite all of their accomplishments and advancements. It is very humbling to come to such realization but very necessary for us to see the reality as is objectively.

Human beings have the tendency to rely too much on technology to solve all the issues and fear those who have more advanced technology than themselves. However, technology is actually very easy to obtain or copy in the universe and it certainly is not the greatest power in the universe at all. While the ETs “visiting” this world are evidently more advanced technologically and possess powerful skills in influencing and manipulating thoughts in the mental environment, they are unaware of the power of Knowledge within themselves or in others, as most human beings are currently. Again, Knowledge is the deeper knowing mind rather than the mind that each individual created since s/he was born through conditionings of authorities in her/his life such as family, religion, culture, society, school, government, etc. It must be clearly understood that Knowledge is not the same as knowledge which is a body of information or a system of beliefs or ideas. Knowledge is, in fact, the greatest power that we possess. We reclaim Knowledge so that we may see so that we may know so that we may take the right course of actions in alignment with God’s Will. And God’s Will is for the humanity to emerge into the Greater Community of Worlds as a strong, united, independent, free race with its self-determination preserved.

So why doesn’t God stop aliens from carrying out its agendas? People may pray that God save them from all the calamities and the Extraterrestrial Intervention. But they must first understand that God is not anyone’s babysitter or errand boy. God does not serve by getting rid of all the tragedies, problems, and challenges in everyone’s life. God serves the humanity by empowering individuals through reclamation of Knowledge so that they may serve others. In fact, spiritually advanced societies serve other races in the universe in similar manner to encourage preserving freedom and self-determination through reclamation of Knowledge, for freedom is rare in the universe.

The Allies [of Humanity] serve humanity because they serve the reclamation and expression of Knowledge everywhere in the Greater Community. They represent the Wise in many worlds who support a greater purpose in life. Together they share a greater Knowledge and Wisdom that can be transferred across vast distances of space and across all the boundaries of race, culture, temperament and environment. Their Wisdom is pervasive. Their skill is great. Their presence is hidden. They recognize you [the humanity] because they realize that you are an emerging race, emerging into a very difficult and competitive environment in the Greater Community.
~ The Allies of Humanity – Book I

God is the Source of all creations in all universes in all dimensions. Can you imagine God of that scale? God is too great to be focusing on the issues of one world, let alone that of an individual. Yet, Knowledge within us bridges us to God. So we’re not left powerless and helpless. God rarely intervenes in the evolvement and affairs of any world in the universe. However, at critical juncture of evolution of a world, a Messenger was sent into the world to warn and prepare the race of that world. The humanity is emerging into the Greater Community of Worlds; it is the greatest threshold that humanity has ever gone through and will ever undergo in its history. Yet, it is its destiny in its evolution. That is why God has sent the New Message to the humanity at this time so that it can become aware, educated, and prepare for the future.

God has already placed the greatest gift within individuals, Knowledge, which will love, protect, and guide them. Yet, people simply want to deny this power that is waiting to be discovered within themselves; they hope that God will make all the problems simply go away. That’s immature and irresponsible. Simply making all the problems go away will weaken and hinder the humanity from advancing, while encouraging humanity to unite and cooperate to resolve the issues and preserve its freedom and self-determination will empower and advance the humanity. God does what works.

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on October 23, 2011 at 4:55am

Stud, Stud Stud,

 

This is an Atheist site where we talk music and family and art and the Evolution Defenders and the Thinking Ape. Three hundred different groups.

 

Once again-An Atheist site - I do not believe in god, an angelic presence, or who talks through who or what - no god, no bible, no talking snake, no angels, fallen or otherwise - I don't believe in aliens, or magic anything - I do believe in my lovely White Unicorn, maybe the flying teapot, but only if it comes with tea.

 

I don't blame god for ANY evolution - let alone different rates - that is called irony, a joke. All those religions can be taken in, because they are already fearful - dead easy to convince them of anything.

 

All these people are looking for something - in this case, something fearful - I have no fear - not of god, jesus or aliens - only the people who believe in this stuff.

 

I know technology is not going to save the worlds problems, and I have no fear of people with better technology than I. I do envy those who programme computers, but that is another story.

 

Wow, I didn't know god made other universes - can you point me to that part in the bible.

 

Ah, yes god is not anyone's babysitter or errand boy? Ha,Ha I gathered that from the bible, he is just into killing kids for making fun of someone - concubines were ok, slavery was the go, didn't see too much love in there. God was not into co-operating, just genocide, jealousy, and ordering the removal of foreskin of the enemy - that was a nice touch - very loving.

 

God’s Will is for the humanity to emerge into the Greater Community of Worlds as a strong, united, independent, free race with its self-determination preserved.

 

Not going to happen ever - maybe in a million years, but not anytime soon, and certainly not through god or marshall.

 

I don't pray to god to save me from anything - but if you need to do this, I wish you luck.

 

Cheers - Suzanne

 

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Permalink Reply by Student of Knowledge on October 25, 2011 at 4:38pm



Hi Suzanne,

Thank you for your response.

You mentioned that [god] is just into killing kids for making fun of someone. My knowledge in the bible is failing me here; I’m not sure which passages and book in the bible you extracted such incidence. I have mentioned in one of the previous posts that there have been five Messengers in human history. Yet, there are more than a few dozen authors whose books are included in the bible, which were hand-picked by some political or religious authority figures. You can perhaps make some connections there. God does not generally intervene into human society or any other societies in the universe. God does not “speak” too often; that rarely ever happens. However, at critical juncture of the evolution of a race in a world in the universe, a Messenger has been sent into the world to receive Message from God through Angelic Presence watching over the development of the world. So, clearly, God is not the one who caused or allowed tragedies, injustices, wars, negative emotions, etc. People caused and allowed them. It is the state of the separation from God, physical reality, and human tendency that created such history. God does not micromanage any individuals or any worlds. Here, once again, God is blamed for what our ancestors did; God is blamed for the tragedies people created. Such stance is irresponsible and juvenile.

You asked me to point you to the part in the bible, which states that god created other universes. That is precisely the thing. Current religions do not account for life in the universe, the Great Waves of Change, and the Extraterrestrial Intervention that is occurring now. Why weren’t these accounted for in the bible? These would have been completely irrelevant at the time and incomprehensible to people two millennia ago. That is the reason that the New Message from God has been sent into the world now at this time, for the time and the circumstances are ripe for it. The New Message from God is not here to replace other religions or compete with them but rather to expand their perspectives to include aspects that are relevant to the humanity at this time, to alert and educate the humanity, and to prepare the humanity for the future which will be unlike the past.

As you have mentioned many times, yes, this is an atheists’ web site. I’ve only been answering your questions. However, regardless of your stance on God, you and I and everyone else on the face of this earth are facing the same reality, the Extraterrestrial Intervention.

Observing objectively and recognizing the reality as is without fear, preferences, or assumptions is being wise. Denying the reality is being injudicious and irresponsible – being unable to respond. It is as if the ocean water recedes into the ocean just before tsunami hits, and instead of seeking shelter on a higher ground away from the ocean, some people take the chance to walk into the seabed to pick up seashells. Then they drown in the ocean when the big waves come surging in because they were not aware of the reality, disregarded warning, or denied the reality, and so they were unable to respond to the situation. The humanity at large is unaware of the reality as is. The reality is that Extraterrestrial Intervention has been going on for the past few decades, the Great Waves of Change is occurring and will get worsened, and the New Message from God is sent into the world at this time to alert the humanity, educate the humanity, and prepare the humanity for the future. Unfortunately, when people do become aware of the reality, many deny or reject the reality out of fear, so that they can return to their complacent life and preoccupations. The circumstances may arouse fear in people; fear can be helpful only if it turns into real concern and actions beneficial to the humanity.

God’s Will is, indeed, for the humanity to emerge into the Greater Community of Worlds as a strong, united, independent, free race with its self-determination preserved. This must happen soon or the fate of humanity will be sealed, for the ETs here to conquer this world are counting on human ignorance, denial, and inaction regarding their intervention. They are working their Pacification Program on the humanity to accomplish just that. You don’t need to look very far to observe this for yourself.

To truly understand this challenging message, we must confront and question many of the prevailing assumptions and tendencies regarding the possibility and the reality of Contact. These include:
- denial;
- hopeful expectation;
- misinterpreting the evidence to affirm our beliefs;
- wanting and expecting salvation from the “visitors”;
- believing that ET technology will save us;
- feeling hopeless and submissive to what we assume is a superior force;
- demanding government disclosure but not ET disclosure;
- condemning human leaders and institutions while maintaining unquestioned acceptance of the “visitors”;
- assuming that because they have not attacked or invaded us, they must be here for our good;
- assuming that advanced technology equals advanced ethics and spirituality;
- believing that this phenomenon is a mystery when in fact it is a comprehensible event;
- believing that ETs in some way have claim to humanity and to this planet;
- and believing that humanity is irredeemable and cannot make it on its own.

The Allies Briefings challenge such assumptions and tendencies and explode many of the myths we currently have about who is visiting us and why they are here. The Allies of Humanity Briefings give us a greater perspective and a deeper understanding of our destiny within a larger panorama of intelligent life in the Universe. In order to achieve this, the Allies do not speak to our analytical mind but to Knowledge, the deeper part of our being where the truth, however clouded, can be directly discerned and experienced.
-Note to Readers in The Allies of Humanity–Book I

Suzanne, I don’t think you ever told me what you thought of the Disclosure Conference 2011 by former air force officers from all around the world presenting their testimonies of witnessing UFOs up close. What, may I ask you, is the reason that you keep denying the reality that ETs are “visiting” this world and intervening into human affair? If you would please, ask that question to yourself and remain very quiet for at least five minutes and see what answers surface to your mind.

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on October 26, 2011 at 5:43am

Dear Stud,

 

Regardless of your stance on God, you and I and everyone else on the face of this earth are facing the same reality, the Extraterrestrial Intervention - 

 

Sorry Stud, just isn't going to happen - but I will say, your marshall is a very good manipulator, as are most frauds and charlatans, and all the frauds through the thousands of years, always somebody saying they are speaking to god, with dire predictions. Your marshall just has to join the que. He is not the first, and he will not be the last.

 

He is using exactly the same tactics as any religion of fear, if you don't take notice, something dire will happen.

 

In the case of straight religions, it is the fear of going to hell, in marshall's case, it is aliens taking over.

Same old, same old.

 

Your knowledge of the bible is not very good at all, considering you deem to call yourself student of knowledge.

 

I DO NOT believe in god in any way shape or form - so no point in talking about a god, or saying he only talks to certain people, maybe not very often etc.

Prove to me there is your particular god, and I will listen. That is the starting point.

Your statement: God does not generally intervene into human society or any other societies in the universe. God does not “speak” too often; that rarely ever happens.

 

Well Stud, In the old testament he interfered constantly, he never stopped.

So why has he now gone quiet. Has your god gone on holidays, or is he doing what the average xian does, sees torture and mayhem, injustice, people starving to death, which, by the way, is a lot worse than three days on a cross, the method of torture in those days, and all sit on their hands and look the other way.

 

Your statement: incomprehensible to people two millennia ago.

Ah, not quite. You are trying to tell me it was all too hard to talk about aliens.

 

They understood and believed he had made the universe, heaven and earth, the stars, moon, sun animals and people, but lets not tell them about other beings on other planets, don't talk about the aliens?

 

The goat herders of the day would believe anything. They believed in talking snakes, in stars guiding three blokes, in virgin births, in a boat carrying every animal on earth for forty days, on a tower going up to the universe, how everybody on earth were automatically not able to understand each other, as their language changed, which by the way, another insidious act - if I believed it.

 

So, talking about aliens would have been believed, so tell me again, why aliens were not mentioned.

 

Why does your god allow all this confusion about what is the right path - 

 

How come the ten commandment were zapped directly onto stone, and that is the only time that god expressed himself directly, and the rest of the time it was through intermediaries. 

This is another by the by - there were originally 613 commandments, so, during the many, many translations, by  people speaking different languages, the number was culled to 10.

 

My point is that that was the only time in the whole bible where god communicates directly to stone, and not through somebody. 

 

When messages are so misconstrued, so many different opinions, why not put everything on stone? The omnipotent god, who knows all, surely he would be cheesed at everything being so misinterpreted and garbled.

He did it once, why not do it again, and show everybody the imminent danger they are in?

 

Are you blaming tsunami, earthquakes, volcano eruptions, on aliens. Always been happening, and will continue to happen. It's just that humans get in the way, living in places they shouldn't be, living in dodgy buildings etc. People taking short cuts to make more money, as in Japanese Nuclear Plant, and badly built buildings.

 

I have two Carcharocles chubutensis - also known as shark teeth that are 28 million years old years old from Utah - found thousands of feet up on a mountain. I have a Trilobite, this particular one is 540 million years old - can you imagine - also from Utah. Just look up Trilobites on the internet - also part of your education.

 

Floods, earthquakes tsunamis, always been happening, and will continue to happen.

 

Disclosure Conference - Just say, for instance that UFO's were seen by air force officers - I don't know, but it is a huge jump to then say, your lovely marshall gets messages from god  - codswollop - your marshall is a fraud, and he knows it - that's where the whole thing falls down.

 

Do these same air force officers believe god is talking to something, who in turn is talking to marshall, saying aliens are here, are these people actually saying that. Can you show me a statement where these air force pilots are agreeing with marshall.

The following is just one of the verses about the killing of children.  Lots of verses about killing babies, giving concubines in payment, and rounding up virgins for men. Oh, happy times.

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them  2 Kings 2:23-24

 

This could well be a misinterpretation, simply because there are hundreds of bibles, and hundreds of interpretation. Whose to know.

If the stories of talking snakes is untrue, why would I believe this, or any statement in a bible.

 

And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children.

 And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.

 And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan - Judges 21:10-12

How would you interpret these passages - find them and read on - truly horrifying.

This is the mentality of desert, uneducated, tribal, territorial savages. All in your bible - that you believe.

 

Cheers - Suzanne

 

Permalink Reply by Danny Sanchez on December 24, 2011 at 9:47am

Your reasoning for god only communicating to one person is such crap. The best way for everyone to get the pure message would be to just tell everyone not just one person.

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Permalink Reply by Student of Knowledge on December 24, 2011 at 2:34pm

Hi Danny,

What do you propose God to do?  Speak on a megaphone for the world to hear simultaneously?

God doesn't speak.  God translates God's Will through the Angelic Presence who then translates God's Will to the Messenger.  This is always how God's Will has been translated.

 

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Permalink Reply by Albert Bakker on December 24, 2011 at 3:21pm

Yes isn't it strange that from the outside it would seem the will of god coincides quite conveniently with loads of messengers, despite all these different wills being translated into wills that are ultimately incompatible and irreconcilable with one another?

How fortunate is it that these messengers often have loyal followers who do rarely experience much difficulties to identify all these other revelations about the will of god as false but those revealed by the messenger they were already following. No disturbance in the resonances, everything is clear.

Too bad though that omnipotence doesn't go as far as enabling one to speak.

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Permalink Reply by Danny Sanchez on December 24, 2011 at 5:23pm

Then god should send angels to everyone on the planet. I promis you that if god were to do this most every atheist would convert on the spot.

Clearly your god wants us to be atheist because it gives us no valid proof of its existence. (by valid I mean scientific proof verified by the majority of scientist in the world using peer review like they do with everything they prove or disprove)

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Permalink Reply by Student of Knowledge on December 25, 2011 at 4:28pm

Hi Danny,

The Angelic Presence is unseen.  How would you recognize them and are you prepared to be communicated to by them?  It is a physically, emotionally, and mentally strenuous task to receive a Teaching in a state of revelation for Marshall.  Yet, he’s had over 800 such encounters with the Angelic Presence.  Could you be prepared for such arduous tasks for almost 30 years in bringing the New Message from God, only to be countered with rejection, criticism, contempt, ridicules, disbeliefs, or judgments by people before even finding out what the Message is about, instead of being regarded with gratitude and respect by people heeding the Message?  If you heard the voice of the Angelic Presence today, would you listen to it soberly or would you attempt to run from it?  Are you certain it would convert you rather than destroy you?  Convert you to what?  The Message from God is not about converting people to anything but about warning against the dire circumstances the humanity is facing, and educating and preparing the humanity for the future. 

You’re an atheist because you chose to be, not because God wants you to be.  That is not to say God condemns you for it.  People often have dysfunctional relationship with God because of conflicts and oppression that some individuals precipitated upon others.  It is understandable. 

We can draw a conclusion that the human science has not reached the pinnacle of its development if you consider the technology that brought the extraterrestrial beings to this world.  How can their “proofs” in physical reality (3-dimension) verify the existence of God, God of all Creation in all worlds in all of the universes in all dimensions?  Your statement may be analogous to a colony of ants attempting to determine the reality of life in a universe in a different dimension.  They couldn’t possibly prove or disprove the reality of that magnitude, and neither can any scientists prove or disprove God of that magnitude.      

 

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Permalink Reply by Danny Sanchez on December 25, 2011 at 5:27pm

I'm prepared!! Bring it on god, send me an angel!!

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