Marshall Vian Summers claims to be receiving a new message from God. Over the past thirty years, Summers has recorded more than 800 spoken revelations while living in seclusion in the foothills of the Colorado Rockies. He claims these revelations come from God and are being given to him by angelic emissaries.
When asked about his "New Message," Summers said, "It was revealed to me by an Angel of God, a powerful, mysterious presence that filled my mind and the surrounding environment with grace."
In the beginning, Summers found believers in his wife, his son and a small group of committed students. Yet now, a growing number of people are staking their faith in Summers' claims, and most live far from Colorado.From South Korea to Uganda to Saudi Arabia, people are congregating virtually on Summers' website, and his organization regularly releases translations in seven languages.
With followers worldwide, Summers' organization has turned to live internet broadcasting to preach the word. One Sunday a month, Summers presents via webcast an "original revelation of the New Message from God" to his viewers.
And on February 6th, Summers will descend Moses-like from his proverbial mountain in the Rockies to offer his newest digital stone tablets from God. This month's release: a 47-minute revelation entitled "Deeper Recognition in Relationships."
Thoughts? Besides "He is full of crap."
The issue here is this.. Any intelligent being wishing to contact us on Earth would do their research, ie find out who the most influential power(s) are and contact them. Period.
If they're instead contacting naive, easily manipulated members of the populus live in BFE that says they have other things in mind..
Let's assume for second God is real...Why didn't God during the period of the OT contact the most advanced society at the time (China) and instead chose to contact common sheep herders in in the desert? Your answer isn't any different than what a Christian would give. ..Instead of saying "we don't know the ways of God.." you say "We don't know the ways of the universe"..
Just because it's wrapped differently doesn't mean its not the same fruitcake from last year.
No, the real issue is that you guys are atheists. That is the real issue here.
Aliens have, actually, been “visiting” for many, many years without our approval. They have had technology advanced enough to travel at superluminal speed long before the humanity ever existed. The ET Collectives of the ET Intervention have, indeed, been contacting, either directly or indirectly in the mental environment, some of the most influential people, particularly in the arena of politics, religions, and commerce.
Do not confuse ET Intervention with the Allies of Humanity. They have entirely different goals. ET Intervention’s goal is to establish itself here and covertly conquer the world to use the humanity for its benefits. The Allies of Humanity merely came to observe the ET Intervention that the humanity does not have the vantage point to observe, warned the humanity regarding it, counseled us to prepare to offset it, and then left the solar system.
If all Marshall received were Allies of Humanity briefings, then you might have been intrigued, concerned, and even attempted to get more educated about life in the universe, and to prepare for the future. However, the Allies of Humanity practice the Greater Community Spirituality, represent the Wise in the universe, came at the request of the Angelic Presence (whom the Allies of Humanity call Unseen Ones) that is watching over the well-being and the development of the world, and counseled us to reclaim the greatest power in the universe that is within each one of us, the power of Knowledge, as is called in the Greater Community Spirituality, which they practice to reclaim as well. The power of Knowledge is also the power the Angelic Presence has been counseling us to reclaim. Marshall has been receiving a vast body (over 9160 pages to date received over 25 years, all in a state of revelations through over 800 encounters with the Angelic Presence) of the Message constituting 1000 messages, the New Message from God.
That is why you guys take issue with Marshall and the Allies of Humanity briefings.
What evidences do you have to label Marshall as naïve or easily manipulated? Do you even know what it’s like to have encounters with the Angelic Presence?
Atheists blame God for all the tragedies that human beings inflicted upon each other throughout human history. Yet, you deny the existence of God. How can you blame God that, you believe, doesn’t exist? Isn’t that contradictory? What you fear is that your identity (atheists) is founded upon your assumptions and it will be crumpled if you accept the Allies’ briefings as true, Marshall as the Messenger of God’s Message, or the fact that Marshall has had encounters with the Angelic Presence, God’s Angels. That is what you fear. You fear because, deep down, you fear that God actually does exist. You fear God’s punishment for all you’ve said in this forum and in your life about God. However, you do not irate God.
God’s love is what brought the News Message from God to all of humanity…including atheists.
"God did not invent your ideas and beliefs. God did not create your preferences and your fears. God did not create the world that is a product of everyone’s preferences and fears. You cannot blame God for the social conditions of humanity. You cannot blame God for wars and cruelty, exploitation, slavery and poverty. That is all a human creation based upon greed and ignorance, based upon not enough people contributing enough to the world around them.”
“But God did create the presence of Knowledge within you, and only God’s New Revelation makes this very clear, without an overlay of history and human interpretation to cloud your understanding. The stream is clear. The Message is pure. You are receiving it from its Source, instead of an interpretation that was made centuries later for human consumption.”
Tsk, Tsk, Stud, here you are again :D
No god in me, tried hard at that for fifteen years, and just didn't work. And it wasn't god's love that I felt, I just had to read how vicious your god was, and thought how can anybody believe and make their life around this pig. Just a bunch of uneducated, vicious, misogynistic men, who over hundreds of years, made up really bad stories. Funny that :D
What you are doing is scare mongering, exactly the same as your god of your bible. It just doesn't work. People with fabulous imagination, as in Jules Verne, Melissa Mathison, Jacques Vallee who wrote Passport to Magonia: from Folklore to Flying Saucers - on Extraterrestrial Hypothesis, and hundreds more, could tell you all about outer space, living on other planets, huge scary monsters and some nice ones too - body snatchers, all been told in novels - then a rogue like marshall thinks of another deal that can scare people - he, and his ilk of charletans, say to themselves, what ridiculous stories can we lay on these poeple, so I get adulation for angels talking to me - and we get to charge them to boot - it is all about scare mongering, money and ego.
Sad Really - but it has been done many times before - have you not heard of Scientology - Ron Hubbard could not believe his luck when he went from writing Sci-fi, then sprouted that it was in fact true - and these poor, gullible, needy people, believed it. I think that is what worries me the most is, any loony tune can come up with the most incredibly stupid story, and there will always be thousands of people who will actually believe it.
Your whole story falls down when you mention just two things - talking angels and god - you have to prove they exist before going on trying to prove ET's, and that, you just can't do.
As usual - no need to etc.etc. :D
I have already told you archaeopteryx, play nice, but Stud doesn't play nice, he won't talk to me, and I feel left out :D not a nice thing for an alien believer to do, don't you think.
Try reading all of the content of that post. The real reason that you take issues with the New Message from God, Marshall, and the Allies of Humanity briefings is because you guys are atheists. Yet, all of the humanity must deal with the ET Intervention. These ETs do not discriminate religious human beings from atheistic human beings. If humanity remains ignorant and foolish regarding the ET Intervention, it will become subjugated by them.
Love long and prosper --
You're right.. I am an Atheist, No changing that. Being an Atheist doesn't preclude me from believing in the existence of alien life or UFOs, which I'm more inclined to believe then a supernatural force. In either case, I'd still need evidence other than personal experience.
At least, you’re reasonable enough to the extent that you do not allow your religious belief to preclude you from believing in the existence of alien life or UFOs.
I also wanted an evidence of UFO for closer observation, so I even carried around a digital camera, in case I might be able to capture the image of UFOs, were I to sight another one. I have sighted more, but I was driving down a mountain at night, and was not able to stop the car in time to take my camera out and photograph them.
Unless someone happens to have a video camera or camera handy already when s/he sights a UFO, it is very difficult to photograph these UFOs that zap around the space more quickly than a lightning bolt... literally. I wouldn’t hold it against abductees for not being able to procure a scraping or a part of UFOs, or photos of extraterrestrial beings, for it is unreasonable to ask for any evidence to those whose minds were completely controlled during the abduction. They are unfortunate victims who have already endured a great deal against their will. They need our sympathy, not our condemnation, insensitivity, or derision. So, once again, in order to find any evidence, you’ll have to search the internet, if you haven’t had any experience of sighting a UFO or were lucky enough to not get abducted.
I know that people hold on to their beliefs and assumptions very strongly because they feel that those are the foundation of their identities which aren’t their True identities at all. However, I’m not here to change your beliefs. Regardless of your religious background, the entire humanity is in the same boat facing the same destiny.
I've been continuing to follow the discussion here but haven't contributed lately, but this comment about seeing UFOs has me interested.
Have you seen the UFOs in the same area repeatably, "driving down a mountain at night"? Where is this? I'd love to put myself somewhere that UFO sightings are common or at least likely.
Have you been able to confirm any sightings with others or were you the only one to see them? Was anyone else in the car driving with you?
By the way, please be careful driving. You should keep your eyes on the road more than the sky, especially driving down a mountain at night.
There was no "reply" button at the end of your post, so I will reply under this one.
I have sighted those UFOs in three different locations and two different states. I was with another individual in all cases. In those cases where I sighted them while driving, I was looking straight ahead and the UFOs were visible through the windshield.
Also, UFO sightings occur all over the world. You can google "data on UFO sighting." For a very prominent case, former president Jimmy Carter sighted one up close with 20 to 30 other neighbors of his. While at it, try youtubing Ronald Reagan's speech before the entire panel of UN, alluding to alien invasion.
The reason I asked where you had repeated sightings is because I'd like to be able to see a UFO also. It seems that you have a good spot.
I don't believe everything I read on the internet, so googling UFO sightings might give me who knows what from who knows where and who knows who. At least I know you are a real person and have had relatively recent sightings. "three different locations and two different states" doesn't help me, I'm just curious where one might have the best chance to see a UFO. And near area 51 doesn't count. I'm looking for a place where experimental military aircraft that might be mistaken for alien craft aren't common.
Also I'm confused about your sightings. You say there was someone with you on all occasions of your sightings, but you didn't have time to pull over and get out of your car to photograph them when you did have a camera. Why didn't your passenger take the photos with your camera?
I tried "youtubing" Ronald Reagan's speech to the UN about alien invasion, and I couldn't find anything. Do you have a link to something specific?