Hi Rick. Your breath taking discourse hangs on the lexical cliff if ignominality. How do these philosophers deal with non symbolic (words) conscious thought/beliefs?
the confirmed ignorant-----
I would say that a god would have certain qualities in his/her/their essence...let's call it an essence 'box'. Love, veracity, justice, omnipotence, omnipresence, omniscience, et al. He/she/they would have to necessarily 'limit' itself from performing any one of them that violates any of the other qualities. That, to a degree, makes sense. But, if a god has lived forever in time 'past' and could know what he would be doing trillions and trillions and trillions of years later, to-wit: creating a race of angels and those human beings 'lower' than the angelic estate...why wait? It makes no sense. What would he/she/they do in the interim...talk amongst themselves about 'god knows what'?
If I can imagine a god that has never 'not' existed, then I should have no problem contemplating a universe that has ALWAYS been here and will ALWAYS be here...no beginning..no end. Does that bother and/or annoy and/or frustrate me? Not in the least. The universe is never ending in scope...the miscroscopic world is never end in scope because if you say you've reached the end point in either direction...then WHAT's beyond that?
Here is another one of similar ilk.
In regards to prayer, why would an all-knowing, all-loving being need to be asked to do something that would benefit a human before it will act? And if it does not need these petitions in order to act then what is the use of prayer?
If its reasons are unknowable by humans then how can humans possibly determine that it is, indeed, all-knowing and all-loving? Are these imputed attributes simply the fallible conjectures of humans on the basis of incomplete evidence or the mere say-so of the supposed being according to its prophets?
I do believe that many theists do gain 'strength' from prayer, but not because some guy-in-the-sky is listening and either does or does not take heart. When one prays, he or she is basically communicating with themselves, both consciousness and subconscious. It's a motivator in some sense, a plea in others, a confession of one's errors in life, etc.
Inotherwords, prayer is, in essence, taking one's own counsel. Theists believe they're talking to a son of god who is sitting 'at the right hand' of god the designated father (planner) with the holy spirit (the inspirer)seated at the father's left side....all in the 'throne room' theater. It's imagery that's used as a crutch to inspire..to create an alternate reality.
Little do they recognize that each individual does take counsel with him/herself. We acknowledge mistakes and virtues to ourself. It's a feedback. That's all it is, but it's a very important part of one's conscious being.
Of course, "God works in mysterious ways. Surely this imperfection serves its purpose in the grand scheme of things." is a typical answer you would get from those theists who are even open enough to listen to and look at this video.
Still, a perfect example of the improbability of Creationism