My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand
I read posts here that call different things, "harmful to humanity." Others call something, "good" or "bad" or "evil."
A very simple question, who gets to decide the definition of "harmful to humanity" and what is there critieria? The same for "good," "bad," and "evil?" These are not material terms. If everything is material isn't there just "is" and not these moral declarations if one is being thoroughly atheist?
Help me understand your position so I am fair and honest about the views. Thanks.
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Permalink Reply by Keith Pinster on -
@Shabaka - Whatever you do, NEVER admit you're are wrong! Just keep moving forward and make yourself look even more like an uncaring ass. "If we can't torture animals, then that will lead to allowing chickens to marry pigs and that would just be *wrong*!!!" Is it that you don't understand how ludicrous your premise is, or that you are so self-righteous that you can't conceive of ever having an invalid opinion, or just so prideful that you can never admit being wrong in public?
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Permalink Reply by Atheist Exile on -
All of the above.
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Permalink Reply by Shabaka Tecumseh on
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I'm wrong a lot, but I'm correct (from my personal world view) more
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Permalink Reply by Atheist Exile on
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Being right more than you are wrong is a pretty low standard of measure . . .
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Permalink Reply by Keith Pinster on
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Blaine - Ya, me too. When I get the comments in email and see they are from him, I just delete them without reading them. He makes irrational leaps that only a zealot can make and think they are presenting a reasonable argument. Pretty pathetic.
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Permalink Reply by Arcus on -
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"
~Winston Churchill
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Permalink Reply by Wretched Saint on -
Why shouldn't they have the same right as humans? We are all 100% material living beings without a soul?
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Permalink Reply by Wretched Saint on
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wooo, why you got to dis on dogs? There DNA is actually closer to ours than most think. And have you ever seen a poodle with that lil pink bow? Who is to say that at least a poodle could be a "friend with benefits?" Who can claim that is wrong?
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Permalink Reply by Atheist Exile on
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Slippery slope arguments, Shabaka, are unfalsifiable in the present . . . and always turn out to be exaggerated in the future. And by taking your conclusion to extremes, you pose a false dichotomy: it's not either - or. It's not traditional marriage versus mindless debauchery.
This tactic is the conservative's way of stepping on the brakes of progress. Change isn't a bad thing. It's how we evolve.
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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on -
Agree completely, Exile, but we never know for certain, the outcome of change, and to the less adventurous, it can be frightening. Not taking sides, just trying to explain Human nature --
pax vobiscum,
archaeopteryx
www.in-His-own-image.com
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Permalink Reply by Atheist Exile on
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@archaeopteryx,
Yes, I did have reservations about the wording: "Change isn't a bad thing.". I should have said: Change isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I was afraid somebody would pick up on that :-)
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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on
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Sorry it had to be me, but as the scorpion said to the frog, "It's in my nature --"
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