Music on personal pages
So I've been on T|A over a year and I find getting to know people through their home pages and their blogs a very appealing feature of the site.
There is a ning feature that really annoys me and I wish it could be fixed and that the page length limitation. I really wish I could set the page length to 100 posts instead a dozen... and that the page navigation tools were present ALSO at the top of discussions instead of only at some arbitrary position somewhere scrolling down to where posts abruptly end... :( I realise T|A probably cannot fix this, but maybe we can gather such suggestions and pass them on.
Something we do have the power to change is the way members present music on their home page. I am on the internet to read people's thoughts, not to suddenly out of nowhere be blasted with some music I have no affinity for. I think if people are to place music on their pages, the minimum etiquette is to place the controls at the very top of the page so people can shut the darn thing off quickly and easily instead of searching through a myriad of visuals to stop the music.
And no, I don't want to turn my computer volume off because I do listen to video clips here and there.
The imposition of personal music selections onto readers has become fashionable but I think it's about as presumptious as puffing smoke in a non-smokers' face...:(
I'm open to gettting to know other people's music selection, but I'd like to able to turn the music on myself instead of having it dumped on me.
EDIT: Placement of controls on page are user controlled, autoplay on/off is user controlled
PS before insinuating that an OP is a moron for making a request, why don't we use our noggings and do some research on the prevalence of people who feel this way about autoplay music on personal pages not just on TA but on the www in general. It is not a non issue just because someone has not pondered the topic before.
There is a ning feature that really annoys me and I wish it could be fixed and that the page length limitation. I really wish I could set the page length to 100 posts instead a dozen... and that the page navigation tools were present ALSO at the top of discussions instead of only at some arbitrary position somewhere scrolling down to where posts abruptly end... :( I realise T|A probably cannot fix this, but maybe we can gather such suggestions and pass them on.
Something we do have the power to change is the way members present music on their home page. I am on the internet to read people's thoughts, not to suddenly out of nowhere be blasted with some music I have no affinity for. I think if people are to place music on their pages, the minimum etiquette is to place the controls at the very top of the page so people can shut the darn thing off quickly and easily instead of searching through a myriad of visuals to stop the music.
And no, I don't want to turn my computer volume off because I do listen to video clips here and there.
The imposition of personal music selections onto readers has become fashionable but I think it's about as presumptious as puffing smoke in a non-smokers' face...:(
I'm open to gettting to know other people's music selection, but I'd like to able to turn the music on myself instead of having it dumped on me.
EDIT: Placement of controls on page are user controlled, autoplay on/off is user controlled
PS before insinuating that an OP is a moron for making a request, why don't we use our noggings and do some research on the prevalence of people who feel this way about autoplay music on personal pages not just on TA but on the www in general. It is not a non issue just because someone has not pondered the topic before.
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Permalink Reply by T A A on -
maybe you missed this line...
the minimum etiquette is to place the controls at the very top of the page so people can shut the darn thing off quickly and easily instead of searching through a myriad of visuals to stop the music. -
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Permalink Reply by T A A on
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Saddly you err on this point. Go to your page and grab any info box, it can be moved around by a simple click and drag.
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Permalink Reply by T A A on
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Smarmyness does not make you easier to read... I posted this in the open forum so that all members could see it and ponder on it. Your thinking that I'm coming out of left field with this only indicates that you have not paid attention to such netiquette debates on the general www.
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Permalink Reply by Jason Paisley on -
doone is our hero of the page edit when we're just too damn lazy or busy.
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Permalink Reply by T A A on
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It depends on the intent of the music, for your own time on your own page, or for others...
Specially as free thinkers, I assume people will facilitate readers' CHOICE, instead of imposition.
People get on the internet at the office, in the middle of the night, in all sorts of circumstances where a sudden blast of music is out of place. -
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Permalink Reply by T A A on
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Choice implies knowledge, if one cannot know that music is gonna blast at you, one cannot make an informed decision, If your pic contained a music warning sign, then it would be different.
Imposed music on a page is matter of "netiquette" and it is a point of contention with many other users on the web than myself. -
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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on -
It's generally accepted in my work and social circles that you plug in headphones in those situations.
Music is a means of expression. Some people choose to add quotes, music, images, bios and all manner of things to express themselves. They could choose to conform to the reader's wish, but there are many readers who do not all have uniform preferences.
Perhaps this thread will act as an informal poll. If many people voiced their opinions on the subject, I'd be content to leave the autoplay feature checked off.
Personally, I like like when people leave it checked on. I don't often think to look a the music player on people's pages. On at least one occasion it has proven serendipitous. -
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Permalink Reply by T A A on
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99% of my internet time does not require headphones. So I only wear them if I KNOW that sound is coming, but sound on a personal webpage does not come pre-advertised...
If people dragged the player to the top of the page, then people could turn it on as they wish, and they could choose the song... Some people have dozens of songs. Maybe I'd like to be able to quickly see the titles and chose which song to play? and skip artists I know I have no interest in...
My intent with this post is not to create a ruling that "all" people should do this. But I think if people consider the attenuating options of placement and auto/off, then we can achieve something. -
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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on
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If you aren't expecting sound from your computer, why not leave the volume off where noise is a concern? Do you use sound notifications that require it to be left on?
If you are expecting sound from your computer (from sources other than a think atheist profile page), wouldn't your headphones be on already? -
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Permalink Reply by T A A on
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To use a favorite word of yours, surely you're being facetious...?
>99% of the pages I visit to not have surprise sounds. But when I open a youtube page or another music page, the sound is ready...
Maybe you are assuming that everyone experiences the internet with the same tools... I am on a laptop with no external speakers and no mouse due to carpal tunnel syndrome. So yes, hunting for the volume control is annoying. -
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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on
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I am not being facetious. In my own life, I find it's a very simple issue to work around, so I don't think it's unreasonable to question what is so different about your situation that you can't manage.
I also don't know why you bothered to restate that line. If you are generally not expecting sound, there is generally no reason to keep the volume on. In public and shared spaces, it's courteous to keep it muted as a general practice. If you default as volume off and use headphones on the minimal percentage of sites where you want to hear sound, it shouldn't be an issue.
Maybe you are assuming that everyone experiences the internet with the same tools...
I am not. I am merely assuming that, in the vast majority of cases, there is an easy workaround, something that is entirely within your power to effect.
I am not criticizing the fact that you are appealing for people to change how they present audio on their profile pages, not am I denying that it is an etiquette issue at heart. I simply think you could solve your own issue directly where something like office browsing is concerned. There are over a hundred people in my office, on a variety of machines and they all manage to deal with this problem. -
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