I want to hear which you think is better, real reasons please. Not just, well I think Mac is stupid and for hipsters..or Aw PCs are for poor people..or crap like that. Thank you :)

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I'll certainly concede Mac beat PC all hollow in 1986 for GUIs and WYSIWYG apps!

I started on a PC and will probably stay there because I've got stuff dating back to 1987 on it somewhere.  At work I code for Linux boxes but that's a very different "universe" and the two rarely cross--if I want to do anything but write code I swivel my chair 90 degrees to the right and use the windows 7 box on the company's main network for email, etc.

Noel - I started with a little "LE," harddrive capacity - get ready for a chuckle - 250 Mgs! From tgherre to an iMac, to an iBook, to a MacBook. I do computer graphics, and couldn't be happier.

My first hard drive was 40 megs.  The machine was truly awesome for its day with a full MB of RAM.

When I started we didn't have ones and zeros, we only had zeros.

Now I have a flash drive, the size of my little finger, with a 15 gig capacity - it's truly amazing what we've seen happen in only the last 20 years, hardly the blink of an eye, really.

OK, I've got to step up, here. I started programming in 1972. The first computer I worked on was an IBM 1401 with 4K bytes (that's 4000 bytes - count 'em) of core (main memory), punched cards in and out and a printer. But this 4K computer produced all the reports this largish insurance company needed at the time. Later the company stepped up and bought a tape drive for their master files.

As part of my training I was given an existing production program which used 3998 core positions and I had to add a column to the report. Great fun!! I just had to use areas of memory which were pre-designated for special uses (like the card-read area - 1-80) as temporary storage.

I thought my 250-meg hard drive with my old Mac LE was a horror story, but I added extra memory and boosted it, but 4K of actual memory beats anything I have to offer, hands down! You are the horror-story winner! Congrats!

Not horror-story - just old.

You load your deck of cards into the computer and pressed "Start". No operating system - each card took its place in core until the program was loaded. 

B 333 (branch to core position 333) started the program. 333 because 1-80 was the card-read area, 101-180 was the card punch area, and 201-332 was the print area. Areas above the card-read and card-punch areas were usually used as registers/accumulators. At 333 you started by initializing your work areas, registers, etc. then read the first data card.

There were huge rooms full of boxes of punched cards - 4000 in a box, floor to ceiling. We also had sorting machines with 12 output trays. You sorted a myriad of cards on one column, save the output, then sort them all  on the next column, etc.

The only horror story was dropping a box of cards. :-)

I design computers for avionics. I use PowerPC RISC processors for our embedded designs (instructions per watt is good), so I was concerned when apple moved over to intel parts. Turns out the telecom folks use  PowerPC's so they are still available. Now a European architecture called ARM is in everything. In any event I am sure there is not a whole lot of fundamental difference between an apple and other pc's anymore, since they use the same processors and RAM,

The OS's are different in the consumer machines as are the cosmetics. If someone is willing to pay two or three times the $ just to get a machine that looks cool and belong to a rather smug community of early adopter spendthrifts, I think they are stupid. As for the OS's, most of the bugginess of Windows is gone now, and having owned and used an Apple computer for a year or so, I can tell you it had its own problems.

Owning a PC, one has vastly more software choices, often including free software which is more than up to almost any task the average user may need. I'm doing my taxes with free software. I have Open Office's suite installed, and freeware allowing me to save any document as a PDF. I play movies with VLC Media Player. I pay for specialized photo processing software, but only because I take photos on an industrial scale, and even then it costs less than $100.

It's looking like OS's are becoming irrelevant as a consideration more and more.

I really wish Apple had NOT gone with Intel, as now I have thousands of dollars worth of software that won't work on an Intel machine.

Actually, our first Mac was an SE. We didn't get the Mac SE30 until 1989! It came with a whopping 40 megabyte hard drive. Our IBM Personal System/2 Model 50; before the Model 70, came with a 50 megabyte hard drive. Oh the memories!!! LOL….

Do you remember Quarkxpress? Leaps and bounds beyond Aldus Pagemaker and anything Microsoft put out at the time. Most publishing houses, in New York City, turned to it exclusively when handling our publishing files off disc.

Remember Hypercard? Had fun with that little program and my kids. Made flash cards of the alphabet with voice overs. When it got to the letter "M" i inserted a picture of a monkey and when my son Steven clicked on the little speaker he got, "M" is for monkey, like Steven". His eyes opened wide and he just started laughing. He was five.


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