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Permalink Reply by Karl Mugele on January 26, 2013 at 7:32am

Doug

I used the term "considered atheist" meaning how you were an atheist, not how others considered you.  I am sure there are some who consider me a good man and others a bad man, some consider me intelligent and others a moron, but their opinions are no proof of who I am or my capabilities.

An atheist can simply be someone who's never thought about it, or a someone who understands there is no god or gods and why. The former could be indoctrinated, the latter cannot.

So from what you say, you felt you weren't doing a good job of managing your life and chose the christian "philosophy".   Why that and not Buddhism, or Confuscianism..or just plain old secular philosophy??

Using the christian or other religions path in life is not necessarily bad as long as you don't go spreading the lies, but it's unnecessary.

And you don't describe how you came to believe in the impossible...the supernatural beings.  You are saying that you came to believe in something that as an atheist, you would have known to be a fantasy.

And the process you describe...why would you follow a process to believe unless you believed already...your response makes no sense to me at all.

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on January 25, 2013 at 7:00am

This is my question, as it is with most theists. How can you justify skipping the old testament - god is jesus, jesus is god, and depending which brand of religion one follows, there is also a ghost thrown in. Yet again, cherry picking, and that doesn't work for me.

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Permalink Reply by Milos Cakovan on January 25, 2013 at 8:40am

Did you say ghost?

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on January 25, 2013 at 7:05am

The edit button isn't working -

@Blaine - exactly, doug, you have been there, done that, if you were an Atheist, why were you an Atheist?

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Permalink Reply by Yahweh on January 25, 2013 at 8:21am

Do you think they would be shocked if Yahweh appeared in the chat?

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on January 25, 2013 at 8:22am

@doug wahl - If you don't believe and obey 100% of the bible, how can you, in all conscience follow any of it?

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Permalink Reply by josiah vanvliet on January 25, 2013 at 9:02am

Because some of it is just basic decent advice? I mean really, I don't believe any of the god stuff in there but whats wrong with following good advice like, be nice to your neighbors or whatever?

 

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Permalink Reply by Karl Mugele on January 25, 2013 at 11:10am

But you can "be nice to your neighbours or whatever" without religion...religion in this context is superfluous

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Permalink Reply by Sarah Jane Hall on January 26, 2013 at 1:19pm

right on Karl

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Permalink Reply by William Boyd on January 25, 2013 at 11:16am

Decent advice? That's really picking and choosing even from the latest re-written version.

I have chosen to be nice to people because that's how I'm wired. I couldn't give a toss about what that book says. I say that because I don't get my morals from it. I'd have to lower myself to reading it first of all. I know I'd put it down fairly quickly though.

We don't need that book to tell us how to do what we've already figured out.

Tell me this. When you buy a new dvd player for example. It comes with a nice booklet to describe the functions of the 4 buttons on the front. Cunningly labelled play/pause, stop/eject, forward and back. Do you still read the instructions from the useless booklet?

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Permalink Reply by josiah vanvliet on January 25, 2013 at 11:21am

"If you don't believe and obey 100% of the bible, how can you, in all conscience follow any of it?" 

I was responding to this comment specifically. Just because part of a book is BS doesn't make you a person of bad conscience to follow the parts that are good. I didn't mean anything beyond that. 

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Permalink Reply by Karl Mugele on January 25, 2013 at 11:32am

And the smiting of the OT, and the suffering and death of people since...miracles seem to have become a bit thin on the ground and the good people of the earth suffer every day...nice god, good god, here's a treat, now sit!

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