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Yup! She's clearly awesome! Nose doubt about it!
I wouldn't call Pancake a troll. She's asserting an unpopular (on atheist sites) point of view. It's difficult to admit to a poor argument . . . even atheists can be guilty of that. Toss in her personal investment in her belief system and you've got the formula for obstinate denial. This is a natural reaction and one that doesn't really surprise anybody with experience of the human condition.
TA welcomes everybody -- atheist or not. That means they can post their points of view like everybody else. If doing so results in one's inability to defend oneself, then one will probably look obstinate for lack of logical responses or conceding points to superior arguments.
Evolution is not a matter of opinion. It's a fact. It might be that God is the Prime Mover who created the universe and set the laws of nature in motion . . . thus eventually leading to life on Earth and for our very existence. But we know evolution accounts for the diversity of life on Earth and we even have growing cosmological evidence that God wasn't necessary for the creation of the universe.
Regardless of whether or not some cosmic creator God is out there, what difference does it make to us if he's not part of the natural world? Unless this cosmic creator God demands recognition or worship, he's irrelevant. And any God who would be so petty as to demand recognition or worship is surely not a timeless, boundless, God.
And a personal God who actually intervenes in the natural world -- suspending laws of nature -- to perform miracles and answer prayers? Give me a break. You can't claim THAT and rationality simultaneously.
Hey God, you missed a spot!!
Dear Pancake, let's discuss something else in our face, the eye. Can you explain how in all of our eyes, there is a blind spot? I'm sure you studied that in your science class. Now this is as simple an example as it gets, because I don't know, maybe you don't 'believe' in bacteria.
Now how would that come about if God created our eyes in His image, how would that serve in God's plan for man?
It can either be explained scientifically by the fact that the vertebrate eye developed in such a way that the optic nerve approaches the retina (light sensitive tissue lining the inside of the eye) from the front, therefore creating an interruption in the retina at a certain area as it does so,
OR by the fact that the intelligent designer missed a spot because he was too tired on the sixth day to give a crap really. Which does actually make sense, people are always careless and hasty on Fridays
The amazing know-it-all in the sky explanation always makes more sense to me. Oh, wait, no it doesn't.
of course...like already mentioned, every nose is different but they all serve the same purpose. why two holes? so more air flows through...why is there hair inside them? because are bodies had to develop a way to stop dirt from entering our nasal passages. why do we have snot? same reason.
come on..this isnt even a challenging question, and im not even giving serious answeres
I have not read all your messages because of the ones I have read they are all frivolous. Don't be frivolous.
Start with telling readers here what is your meaning of the word, unguided.
Here, I will reproduce my introductory post for the thread:
That post is found at the start of page one of tis thread.
Tell you what, if you just start your reply with this line:
"By unguided I mean..."Then I will read your message, but as soon as I see you are lapsing into frivolities, I'll stop.