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Permalink Reply by Damond on February 11, 2011 at 12:51pm

My main question for theists is if god is omnipresent then what is the point of trying to find something that has never gone anywhere to begin with? When I tell people that I am an atheist they always tell me to seek god for myself. But it doesn't make sense to look for something or someone that is technically always there. 

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Permalink Reply by Dave G on February 11, 2011 at 1:21pm

Why didn't Jesus denounce slavery?

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Permalink Reply by Eoganacht on February 11, 2011 at 8:02pm

He would have been very unpopular if he did that 2000 years ago, after the OT said that it was alright.

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Permalink Reply by Dave G on February 11, 2011 at 8:43pm

That didn't stop him from denouncing other parts of the Old Testament. Of course, if he'd denounced slavery, it might have gotten him kill- Oh, right. Never mind.

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Permalink Reply by Allen Sneed on February 11, 2011 at 9:02pm

I don't see Christians making a claim about Jesus running a popularity contest.

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Permalink Reply by Eoganacht on February 11, 2011 at 9:17pm

With a Messiah on every street corner, I would have thought he had to. Although he only had 12 people following him. Modern cult have a better attendance rate than that.

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Permalink Reply by Gregor Basić on February 11, 2011 at 9:13pm

Epicurus said it best:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is God both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

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Permalink Reply by Eoganacht on February 11, 2011 at 9:15pm

Thats my favourite quote of all time.

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Permalink Reply by Gregor Basić on February 11, 2011 at 9:52pm

Mine to ;)

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Permalink Reply by Greg Gorey on February 11, 2011 at 9:36pm

for literalists, pointing out contradictory numbers is very very effective. There is no way to get around these numbers and it really gets under their skin. 

 

In general, my best advice is to get up-to-date in philosophy of religion. know the newest arguments, the objections, and the rebuttals to the objections. understanding how science works, especially cosmology, biology, geology, and chemistry work also makes it hard to slip shit past you. 

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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on February 11, 2011 at 10:12pm

This isn't really a question... but show them the evidence that Jesus probably never existed at all.

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Permalink Reply by Eoganacht on February 11, 2011 at 10:41pm

What proof is there that jesus ever existed? perhaps

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