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Permalink Reply by Christian Thompson on November 25, 2009 at 10:13am

I love this idea!!!

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Permalink Reply by bocakiki on November 25, 2009 at 10:25am

Believe me - they will just tear out the 150 page intro and keep on thumping!
Don't forget, one has to be able to think outside the box to give up all that nonsense.

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Permalink Reply by Reggie on November 25, 2009 at 10:59am

They don't read the Bible now. What makes you think they'll read it if we add pages?

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Permalink Reply by Ty on November 25, 2009 at 12:51pm

I just thought it would be fun to turn the tables a little. especially if you just kind of sneak it in and not tell anybody

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Permalink Reply by Reggie on November 25, 2009 at 1:00pm

Oh, I agree! It's just that the people we'd be aiming for are not known for their....how to say it politely....literacy?

But, at least with Cameron's and Banana Man's book, most of what you get is worth reading. If we added 150 pages to mostly junk, who'd want it? We'd mostly be treading on the Gideon's turf! Maybe we can just replace the covers of The God Delusion with that of a Bible? At least then, there would be substance throughout!

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Permalink Reply by bocakiki on November 25, 2009 at 1:11pm

While handing out Dawkins' book under false pretenses is not a bad idea; I really think working on getting closet atheists to come out and be counted is the best way.
I am sure there are many more of us than the small percentage that is often quoted.
It is like working for a political campaign - instead of trying to convert the other political party to one's side - the way to go is to get all the lazy members of your own party out to vote!

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Permalink Reply by Reggie on November 25, 2009 at 1:40pm

I completely agree. I was operating under the more fun and speculative "what if" fantasy land. I would not expect Christians to bother reading Dawkins once they quickly realized that they had been hoodwinked. And even if they did read it, it would not convince most of them to change their stance, anyway.

But getting to and reaching atheists that thought they were alone is very important and a major goal for T|A. Also, getting the message out there to "agnostics" who don't think of themselves as atheists because of negative connotations or misunderstandings of what atheism is.

These people we need to reach, support, and encourage in their world views. And many of them need to be convinced that it is important that they make their voice heard. Many do not see any harm in letting bygones be bygones when it comes to religion.

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Permalink Reply by bocakiki on November 25, 2009 at 5:20pm

Well, it seems we all agree. By the way, you are entitled to a "Fantasy land" as much as any religious person.
Our fantasy land, however, is much more about "realism" that the supernatural one of the believers..
My personal fantasy regarding this topic is coming back to earth in 500 years and see how far the world has come in regards to getting rid of religion. By then our brains should be more advanced and some more natural selection would have happened. As a result of that and some more unimaginable technical advances, we may also be done with wars, racism, genocide etc. (that is if the world hasn't melted away).

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Permalink Reply by Galen on November 25, 2009 at 5:34pm

My fantasy land involves me becoming a god and bitch slapping all those "false" religions like Christianity... :D

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Permalink Reply by bocakiki on November 25, 2009 at 5:41pm

Whatever works inside your head is fine...that is why we are "free thinkers".

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Permalink Reply by Matthew on November 30, 2009 at 10:19pm

Every time I hear the song "Mope" from Blood Hound Gang on my iPod, I think the same thing. Not worshiping false Billy Idols, adding the book of Flava Flav to the Bible, and we cant forget the Norweigian lesbians who feed me grapes and know how to sing. :D

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Permalink Reply by Kirk Holden on November 30, 2009 at 4:23pm

To truly comprehend the epic fail of Cameron and Comfort --- although GOD gave us only one BIBLE (ignoring the fact that this is not actually true) -- Origin is the first but certainly not the only place nature explains natural selection. Some of the explanations are in recent books that have proper introductions.

Even "The Porpoise Driven Life" points back the THE BIBLE as the one, true source of knowledge.

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