I haven't read these so-called "religious" texts and know very little about it so far....but it is definitely interesting so far!!!!!

I'm wondering if anyone has read the texts of Kama Sutra? Have you done any of it to spice up your love life? Have you found any sexual positions more appealing, and if so, which one? Is there any sexual position you've wanted to try but haven't? Do you consider these texts just as oppressive as any other? Or more liberating?

Happy Valentine's Day everybody!!!!

For those of you who have a sexual partner, try something new tonight!

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 I just looked at the pictures. Some of them seemed a bit complicated

I've read the kamasutra, i've spent a whole day in the last book fair i went 5 years ago looking for that book. It was very different from what i expected. It is not the sex book that i thought it was.

The kamasutra is a book of rules about relationship, what to look and expect from a partner socially and physically; it's oriented towards men and that is saying much. It never spoke of sexual positions despite the images, but about the type of kisses, biting and pokes in flirts. The rest of it was how should a woman look (for example, her tights should not touch below her crotch), the types of arts she must know (f.e. poetry, flower arrangements, and three pages long of others), which type of women should one marry and which ones one should only fuck, and is not subtle about what it meant. The usual "marry within ones socioeconomic class".

A real letdown, luckily i didn't payed much for it.

read it?  Hell, I've lived it, and some of the positions are excruciating or downright impossible.

Use it for stretches.

Would you call the Kamasutra a 'religious' book? It's from India but I don't think it's part of Hinduism.

Would you call the Kamasutra a 'religious' book? It's from India but I don't think it's part of Hinduism.

It contains a chapter devoted to various 'holy' things; urging that the 'ordinances of religion must be obeyed', and references to the humanity-oriented purposes of the sun, moon, stars, planets, and other heavenly bodies. Does it have to be part of Hinduism to be religious?

---------------(The Burton Translation)---------

CHAPTER II - ON THE ACQUISITION OF DHARMA, ARTHA AND KAMA

MAN, the period of whose life is one hundred years, should practise Dharma, Artha and Kama at different times and in such a manner that they may harmonize together and not clash in any way. He should acquire learning in his childhood, in his youth and middle age he should attend to Artha and Kama, and in his old age he should perform Dharma, and thus seek to gain Moksha, i.e. release from further transmigration. Or, on account of the uncertainty of life, he may practise them at times when they are enjoined to be practised. But one thing is to be noted, he should lead the life of a religious student until he finishes his education.

Dharma is obedience to the command of the Shastra or Holy Writ of the Hindoos to do certain things, such as the performance of sacrifices, which are not generally done, because they do not belong to this world, and produce no visible effect; and not to do other things, such as eating meat, which is often done because it belongs to this world, and has visible effects.

Dharma should be learnt from the Shruti (Holy Writ), and from those conversant with it.

Artha is the acquisition of arts, land, gold, cattle, wealth, equipages and friends. It is, further, the protection of what is acquired, and the increase of what is protected.

Artha should be learnt from the king's officers, and from merchants who may be versed in the ways of commerce.

Kama is the enjoyment of appropriate objects by the five senses of hearing, feeling, seeing, tasting and smelling, assisted by the mind together with the soul. The ingredient in this is a peculiar contact between the organ of sense and its object, and the consciousness of pleasure which arises from that contact is called Kama.

Kama is to be learnt from the Kama Sutra (aphorisms on love) and from the practice of citizens.

When all the three, viz. Dharma, Artha and Kama, come together, the former is better than the one which follows it, i.e. Dharma is better than Artha, and Artha is better than Kama. But Artha should always be first practised by the king for the livelihood of men is to be obtained from it only. Again, Kama being the occupation of public women, they should prefer it to the other two, and these are exceptions to the general rule.

Objection 1

Some learned men say that as Dharma is connected with things not belonging to this world, it is appropriately treated of in a book; and so also is Artha, because it is practised only by the application of proper means, and a knowledge of those means can only be obtained by study and from books. But Kama being a thing which is practised even by the brute creation, and which is to be found everywhere, does not want any work on the subject.

Answer

This is not so. Sexual intercourse being a thing dependent on man and woman requires the application of proper means by them, and those means are to be learnt from the Kama Shastra. The non-application of proper means, which we see in the brute creation, is caused by their being unrestrained, and by the females among them only being fit for sexual intercourse at certain seasons and no more, and by their intercourse not being preceded by thought of any kind.

Objection 2

The Lokayatikas say: Religious ordinances should not be observed, for they bear a future fruit, and at the same time it is also doubtful whether they will bear any fruit at all. What foolish person will give away that which is in his own hands into the hands of another? Moreover, it is better to have a pigeon today than a peacock tomorrow; and a copper coin which we have the certainty of obtaining, is better than a gold coin, the possession of which is doubtful.

Answer

It is not so. 1st. Holy Writ, which ordains the practice of Dharma, does not admit of a doubt.

2nd. Sacrifices such as those made for the destruction of enemies, or for the fall of rain, are seen to bear fruit.

3rd. The sun, moon, stars, planets and other heavenly bodies appear to work intentionally for the good of the world.

4th. the existence of this world is effected by the observance of the rules respecting the four classes of men and their four stages of life.

5th. We see that seed is thrown into the ground with the hope of future crops.

Vatsyayana is therefore of opinion that the ordinances of religion must be obeyed.

I think the religious section/s serve the same purpose as the topical news  articles do in penthouse.

I think the religious section/s serve the same purpose as the topical news  articles do in penthouse.

You mean, as a sort of society-approved life vest: "I buy it for the articles!"

I'll wait for the movie.

I was half way through it before I realized I was holding it upside down!!

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