Jesus: the Man or the Messiah?
What do you think of Jesus the man? His philosophies? Do you think that the Bible represents his teachings coherently, or do you think their own two cents were dropped in as word-in-his-mouth?
Do you think he had a sense of humor? That he had a normal childhood? Where did he go during his lost years?
It's funny. Reading Lamb, by Christopher Moore, for the second time, I came to wonder what Jesus really DID do during his missing years. Even as an Atheist I am sure that Jesus was a real person-- not a special person, just a philosopher, a teacher, more than likely. So this is based on that assumption that he may have been a real man, regardless of whether one believes he's the Messiah or not.
Well, I decided to do some research, and it turns out that Christopher may not have been far off in his story about Jesus traveling to the East.
http://reluctant-messenger.com/issa.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-davids/jesus-lost-years-may-fina...
http://www.otherplane.com/am/amselene.htm
There's a strong theory that asserts he went to India and Tibet during his eighteen unrecorded years. I think I can see strong influence of Taoist philosophy in his teaching, so this isn't far fetched at all to me personally.
I'm curious to see how many Atheists believe Jesus was a historical figure at the least.
Do you think he had a sense of humor? That he had a normal childhood? Where did he go during his lost years?
It's funny. Reading Lamb, by Christopher Moore, for the second time, I came to wonder what Jesus really DID do during his missing years. Even as an Atheist I am sure that Jesus was a real person-- not a special person, just a philosopher, a teacher, more than likely. So this is based on that assumption that he may have been a real man, regardless of whether one believes he's the Messiah or not.
Well, I decided to do some research, and it turns out that Christopher may not have been far off in his story about Jesus traveling to the East.
http://reluctant-messenger.com/issa.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-davids/jesus-lost-years-may-fina...
http://www.otherplane.com/am/amselene.htm
There's a strong theory that asserts he went to India and Tibet during his eighteen unrecorded years. I think I can see strong influence of Taoist philosophy in his teaching, so this isn't far fetched at all to me personally.
I'm curious to see how many Atheists believe Jesus was a historical figure at the least.
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Permalink Reply by luis enrique olmedo on -
hey sis,where do you feel i insulted doone or attack him ? if you feel i did i apologize. plz tell me where you feel i did ad hominem attacks or insults i dont see any name calling or attacks in my posts,what do you feel was an attack? thank you for your time
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Permalink Reply by luis enrique olmedo on
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i dont hate you guys ,if i came across that way i apololgize, i care about you guys even though i dont know any of you personally.,PEACE
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Permalink Reply by luis enrique olmedo on
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hey bro why is it nonsense? because you don'agree with it? when i asked you if the Holy Spirit is living inside of you you blasphemously put up a pic of two bunnies to mock .the Holy spirit is the Spirit of truth and He will teach you all things so that no one may decieve you,false prophets,false preachers,false believers may decieve you if you dont have the Holy Spirit living inside of you,how do you recieve the Holy Spirit you might ask,REPENT(change your mind about your sin) and believe on the lord jesus as "God"thats the only way you'll be saved and not decieved, by the way those implying jesus is just a myth stolen from other greek myths/krishna etc.... my answer to that fallacy is that the Holy Spirit only testifies to jesus of nazareth as the messiah not krishna,tammuz etc.... only those that are willing to believe the truth will know the truth.PEACE
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Permalink Reply by Atheist Exile on -
It's ridiculous, Fred. People pretending to know God denying other people who pretend to know God.
A complete sham.
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Permalink Reply by Jon Heim on -
I beleive that if he existed, which I'm not saying he didn't...He was only a prophet.
Or he could be made up too....either way.
I agree..I think a lot of us wonder what the hell he was doing in the time that was not recorded.
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Permalink Reply by Svendsen on -
Well it would be relieving if he never existed but i believe he did,dawkins have affirmed it even later on.
It would be interesting if we once found out what really happen..
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Permalink Reply by Peter Metcalfe on -
The very fact we are having this discussion should be evidence enough that the existence of a god is nonsense. If a god did exist it would be so fantastic we would all know beyond any doubt whatsoever. The evidence would be indisputable yet all we have is a book called the bible which is full of contradictions and open to many different interpretations that it cannot and should not be taken seriously by any thinking person. It was written long after Jesus was supposed to have lived and not one historian of the time wrote anything about him which I think is amazing considering who he was supposed to be.
One piece of "evidence" that christians present is that paragraph in the works of Flavius Josephus where he claimed Jesus was the messiah who performed miracles. There are scholars who have studied Josephus' works for many years and are convinced that paragraph is a forgery added three centuries later. Josephus was born after Jesus died so even if he did write it it is only heresay.
People who claim the holy spirit is within them or their god has spoken to them are can only be regards as deluded individuals as people from all religions worshiping different gods say exactly the same thing which makes a nonsense of the whole idea.
I have seen many youtube videos of discussions between atheists and theists and the "evidence" presented by the theist is not evidence at all but ideas, theories and speculation. Here is a perfect example:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxgGKA9eUn0&feature=related
They don't seem to know what real evidence is. If they went to a court of law to defend their belief the case be thrown out.
It is often asked why atheists make such a fuss about religion and don't just sit back and let them get on with it. Religion has been shoved down people's throats and persecuted people for thousands of years and it's time someone hit back. it was a human creation made at a time before science when superstition was a way of life and people believed anything the literate told them.
It's the 21st century and it's time people finally woke up to the truth. As the Americans say so aptly "wake up and smell the coffee."
AMEN.
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Permalink Reply by Michael on -
Speculation is so passive.
I like action and dynamics, for instance, "Prove me now herewith says the Lord"
"He could not swear by any higher so he swore by himself, if you..."
We are assured of the "immutability of his counsel"
Therefore put into action Psalm 91 and see if it works!
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Permalink Reply by Michael on
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And not to be injurious. Obviously without faith you could not possibly put it into action.
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