This idea can have logic and great value even for an atheist.
Not that long ago I offered for some angry people to kick my head in, to prove a point about how men should treat women (i.e. don't bully them). (I guess they didn't have the heart to do it.)
Among the many interpretations which can be placed on the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus, we can say this:
Jesus went to his death willingly - in that he knew it was going to happen, and didn't run away, when he could have done - in order to prove and illustrate a point. That point was his life's work (well, the last 3 years'). One of his main lessons was that we can all be given the chance for our sins to be forgiven, provided we earn it and do the necessary real work involved. Provided we go to our Crucifixion willingly. If he can get himself crucified, we should be up to saying sorry and putting things right when we have to. We should be humble enough to suffer for what we have done. We should be humble enough to let something go instead of escalating to some kind of blood feud.
He also forgave the people who were crucifying him.
By dramatically illustrating the idea that God can forgive our sins, will always give us a second chance to make good: life became possible, life became good, life became fruitful. Instead of nasty, brutish and short. Hence the Resurrection.
I think you missed the 'real' point of the day! I should not need to hint! ;p)
Oh, no. I get it - the wine.
Yes, in a celebratory sense I think....emotacons would hardly touch my actually meaning....so how many lines can an atheist read between?
RE: "emotacons would hardly touch my actually meaning" - not even THIS one?
Dang, that one just might do the job!
Is it crying, or having a humor convulsion? ;p)
First off, materialization was supposed to be memorialization. How that got changed without me catching it is beyond me.
What are your own beliefs regarding transubstantiation, Barry?
Don't believe in it in the literal sense, which is how most take it. However, it is a nice thought in terms of the allegorical meaning Jesus implied when he spoke of the bread becoming his body and the wine becoming his blood, essentially saying that by our partaking of such things we become "one" in him and he in us. So I would see the whole sacrament business as more a memorial to him than anything else.
Now THAT's what I call a fair exchange - I have often asked Professor Robert to be open about his own beliefs, but he prefers to ask ours, rather than reveal his.
RE: "I have been dating a rather charming gal" - knowing your recent history, James, all I can say is, "Yay, YOU! You go Boy --!"
Thank you. Sadly I am still trying to clean up the resulting mess, atleast the oceans were not compromised..;p)