So I'm sure we all have Facebook friends that post crazy, amusing, disturbing things about god. So what are the worst or most amusing things that you have seen? That and do you ever respond to these posts or just ignore them or even just delete people from your friends list? Furthermore how have other people reacted to your own posts about Atheism or subjects that might go against the faith of friends or family?
so sure, they were good, decent Nazis, but then they weren't really Nazis, were they?
You could make the same argument about Christians: that those who behave ethically aren't "true Christians." This is the 'no true Scotsman' argument and I'm not interested in engaging in it.
You're right, Christianity is not a totalitarian regime. It is rarely fatal anymore for people to leave Christianity but they do face other reprecussians. Similarly, the negative impact of Christianity in the world is no longer as strong. I really don't know why you brought up Nazis in this context--I feel the magnitude of their actions is so much worse than anything going on in present day western Christendom. We're talking about the morality of modern-day western Christians--we're not currently in the middle of the witch hunts or the crusades. Do you think it is accurate to compare what is done in the name of modern day western Christianity to what the Nazis did?
My point was that there is a range of culpability among actual Nazis, dependent on the severity of their actions, their beliefs, and factors like their ability to dissent. I am saying that not all Nazis are equally evil. I am also asserting that not all Christians are bad.
Have you watched the videos of people being burned alive, by Christians, in Uganda? Do you know what the suicide rate is for gay teens? Do you realize that rate is a direct result of Christian oppression of gays?
The death toll no longer adds up the what the Nazis were doing at their peak, but then even the Nazi numbers don't add up to what Christianity was doing at its peak. In a modern day context, Christian parents are still able to disown their own children for being gay - and smile about it, and sings songs on Sunday, and be praised by their friends for their upstanding Christian behavior. Did the Nazis ever actually sing joyfully about the horrors they perpetrated?
You are right, it's not fair to compare Christians to Nazis - that would be unfair to the Nazis.
A 'friend' from HS was posting religious messages on my FB page a few months ago. One message stated that unbelievers were going to hell. I wrote back suggesting that such messages were intolerate and unwanted. She wrote back suggesting that I was the intolerate one, then unfriended me. Oh well. I quess I have issues!
Can I slap your brother? Not too hard. Just enough momentum to knock out some delusion and make room for new ideas.
I hate facebook. It's like you don't exist if you aren't on facebook.
Damn, you're right!
God is my co-pilot, but Satan possessed my brakes.
I had a big time christian send me a FB link to Leonard Cohen' brilliant song "Hallelujah". Apparently he never actually understood the real nature of the lyrics. I'm sure its a common mistake "to hear only what you want to."
Maybe there’s a God above
But all I’ve ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
It’s not a cry you can hear at night
It’s not somebody who has seen the light
It’s a cold and it’s a broken Hallelujah
You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well, really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light in every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah
Jeff Buckley's version doesn't carry that last verse, Robert, and I hadn't seen it before, so thanks for posting that.
And how come there is war and rebellion in heaven? Wouldn't that spoil the atmosphere?
Here's my epic Facebook adventure with my hairdresser;s cousin: