I was just wondering. I mean I have definitely heard a lot of BAD arguments that try to prove god exists, the bible is true, etc etc.


We've all heard the many faulty arguments containing fallacies and nonsense before.


But I can't think of any argument which makes logical sense that does support the existence of god, accuracy of the bible, or the justification of a religion before.


Please bring up one, I am interested to hear a good argument from a theist standpoint.



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I think the question would be better posed (and less anachronistic) if it was "Is there a good argument for religion in today's society?" The answer would be no. However, simply because there are no good reasons now, does not mean that there never were any good reasons. Religion had its chance to explain the universe and for a good number of years and it was fine at what it did. Humans had no understanding of science or the natural world so claims of supernatural origins were fine. Questioning is part of the human experience and religion fit into that experience however faulty the answers might be. However, nowadays we have a much better understanding of the universe so there is no real reason to live your life based on those same faulty conclusions.


Good point. Same reason I don't believe in a higher figure AS OF NOW. Just like Richard Dawkins would say, I definitely won't dismiss the possibility of a higher being.


-I'm Atheist in the sense that I believe fairies don't exist because well there is no evidence or proof or a logical argument supporting they exist. Therefore I conclude they do not exist.

-I'm Agnostic in the sense that I cannot claim evidence for fairies' existence DOES NOT exist. It just hasn't been found or proven yet. Therefore, I will not claim I most certainly absolutely claim they do not exist, but at the same time I will not conclude they do exist.


----If the evidence is brought forward to me I am definitely willing to change my views.... And that is how science works! We always look for answers and are willing to admit our mistakes, should future evidence, research, or technology prove us wrong in the future!

"My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race. I cannot, however, deny that it has made some contributions to civilization. It helped in early days to fix the calendar, and it caused Egyptian priests to chronicle eclipses with such care that in time they became able to predict them. These two services I am prepared to acknowledge, but I do not know of any others."

Bertrand Russell in “Has Religion Made Useful Contributions to Civilization?”
The answer is NONE. I have never found any good argument for any religion. I hope you can find a good argument in your fishing expedition. Good luck, Aaron

Arguments about religion are generally kind of pointless, because they boil down to epistemology and an argument between two epistemologies is like a boxing match between people standing in different rings. 


Those arguments generally boil down to something along the lines of the following:

Scientist:  The scientific explanation is the simplest one that takes into account all of the facts (usually, but the religious one always has unnecessary multiplicity of entities), and that is the definition of truth Q.E.D. we evolved.

Christian: No, the book of Genesis says that God created the world in seven days, and Usher showed that the world isn't more than six thousand years old.  Q.E.D. evolution is false

Hindu: You're both wrong!  The Bagvad Ghita clearly states that the different castes were made of the body parts of the Brahmin!

Scientist: But that's absurd! Those are totally unscientific fairy tales! The truth is the simplest explanation that takes into account all of the facts...







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