I've said elsewhere that this was probably the last election where the Republicans stood a real chance of gaining the American Presidency with a program that mainly appeals to prosperous suburban whites and holds little appeal to most women and almost no appeal at all to racial minorities. 

If the GOP is to survive, what do you think it would have to look like? What could it possibly look like?

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I think the GoP will live on in its current form, with little to no change. Why? Because they're part of the system, the plot. They're one half of the two party system, a system used by those on top to keep us in control. They give us two choices and make us think we have a say, make us think our vote matters. The fighting between the Dems and the Reps is just a smoke screen, to make us forget that they're all the Bottom Bunk Bitch Boys of Corporate America. They're bought and paid for, so no matter who wins the election, we the people LOSE the election. The GoP will live on because the American people allow themselves to be lied to, allow themselves to be abused, allow themselves to be lead around by the nose like a bunch of Gorram Sheep following their precious Shepherd.

The GOP will live on but will either change its platform issues or will become more and more irrelevant. The GOP has depended on rural America far more than the Democrats and farming has become much more efficient, meaning that fewer and fewer people each year live in the stick and work on farms. Their other stronghold has been the suburbs, an environment at one time almost totally dominated by whites. However, all I have to do is look around in my area where I see black people in the suburbs. I used to live on the West Coast and I saw more and more Hispanics living in suburbs there as well. These people don't suddenly convert to Republican values. They know which party argued on their behalf and it wasn't the GOP.

I think the GOP as we know it is doomed. It's hard to see how they can change and still provide an adequate contrast between them and the Democrats.

BTW, sounds like you've watched that Zeitgeist movie few too many times. The American political system is flawed and always will be. Not due to a conspiracy but due to the size and diversity of its population. 

Hey Unseen,

BTW, sounds like you've watched that Zeitgeist movie few too many times. The American political system is flawed and always will be. Not due to a conspiracy but due to the size and diversity of its population.

I don't think that's what she was saying. Its not a conspiracy its just the way the system really works. I will grant you though that Grady Jean's perspective is rare because it is sophisticated; as opposed to naive. 

- kk

Hey Grady Jean,


- kk


By the by...

I'm a dude, yo. >_>


It'll take more than four years to make them a legitimate party.

No, I meant that we'll see the Republican party turn more Libertarian. It's the social issues that are really turning people off. By becoming more Libertarian, the Republicans will become more liberal on social issues, but keep similar fiscal priorities. I think that's what we'll see happen over the next 8 years.

Risk their massive crazy christian fundamentalist base in exchange for a tiny crazy libertarian sliver? That sounds like a good trade, said no political strategist ever.

Hey Arcus,

If we're lucky the size of the "religious right" will decrease - kk

I didn't say become equal to Libertarians in all social issues. I said become more Libertarian. Saying yes to Civil Unions would gain more votes. Saying that they don't agree with abortion in the first trimester, but won't seek to ban abortions or overturn R v. W would gain them more votes. Saying no to things like authoritarian, warrant-less wire-taps will gain them more votes. There's lots of others!

Will they turn off some evangelic voters? Yep, but I think they can see now that white evangelicals are a dwindling voter base and that their base needs to expand. Becoming more socially liberal (read: moderate) will help them gain more members among independents and small government-minded Democrats.

And as Kir notes, the "nones" are growing. Evangelicals will continue to decrease in power on the national stage. Plus, who else are they going to vote for? They'll do what almost everyone else in the two-party system does: hold their nose and vote for the one that stinks less, which will ensure that Republicans will have their support regardless.


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