Truth is, if there was solid evidence for the existence of God, it then would be a point of fact with no room for faith.

Therefore is it possible that the continued neutrality is being sustain by God for our benefit?

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Michael, Michael, Michael. Is there no end to your horseshit? Why are you here? To bear witness and gain converts. Have you found one single person here who's the least bit receptive to your nonsense? What you have't told us is yet is why Christianity and not Judaism, Islam, or Zoroastrianism? They have their own versions of the Biblebanger as well and I'm sure you'd be welcome in THEIR little cults, too?

Michael, don't you have anything better to do? Go row your boat ashore, or something --

Or use it to catch up with your Sanity Ship, you know, the one that has already sailed?

Well, see Miguelito, there's a reason for that - I simply don't have enough respect for you, to make any concerted effort to ascertain the facts, what with all of the nonsense you've spouted over the months.

@ Unseen?

"Why are you here ", A not so cloaked philosophical question.

Why Christianity over any other religion? It is the only religion that can raise the dead, cleanse the leper, heal the sick, make the lame walk and cast out demons. You want to see a demon at work?. Read about documented instances of people coming out of truama speaking a language they never learned in their life fluently.

You want to see the dead raised?, Look to Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

I think I have already, myself, and a few friends. Sadly it had nothing to do with your invisable friend, as far as I can see, just good medicine, good surgery, smart people, and caring staff!

The only time I saw religion involved, was when some fellow came in to drop a bible onto my bed. I was rather stoned with morphine at the time, maybe I was dreaming it? I do remember yelling at the nurse for touching my foot, but they understood very nicely 

If you or your invisable friend want to claim credit, you might want to explain how you knew me about 1974, or why the car hit me? Maybe payback for becoming an atheist 37 years latter?

I never tried speeking an 'unlearned' language. I did take three years of Latin once, would that fill that need?

I have never seen a demon, but I have seen and experienced my share of the disturbed, foolish, cruel, etc.

Why are we here? A very good question, but it does not seem to be 'happy'. I am still working on this with some success.

RE: "I have never seen a demon" - then I think it's safe to say you've never met my ex-mother-in-law.

@Michael - Do you distrust yourself so much, that you have to hear voices in your head, to tell you what is right or wrong?

I do not sin - I do not rape, or have evil thoughts about men, well, only my bloke, it is lust, but lust is good, I do not steal or lie - I am very sorry that you have evil thoughts, that must be dreadful,  but I do know of a vicious, malicious, male, who constantly tests peoples' faith, as in Abraham willing to kill his son. Anywhere else, in modern times, in a Western country, both god and Abraham would be charged with incitement to cause violence. A person who likes the smell of burning (sacrifice) rotting (as in Noah's Ark) blood thirsty tyrant when I hear about it. Your god is in this category.

If you really followed your bible, you would have concubines, slaves, beat if not kill children -  If you need someone, in your head, to tell you what is right or wrong, you stay with that. I don't want you wandering the streets, without being 'told' you have to love your wife and children.

You want to see loads of demons, just look at the hierarchy in any religion -  christian, muslim and jewish 'faiths'.

Insanity is believing your hallucinations are real. Religion is believing that other peoples' hallucinations are real. -

Dan Barker

Q. How many Atheists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A. Two. One to actually change the bulb, and the other to videotape the job so fundamentalists won't claim that god did it.

Another thought - if we are made in god's image, why aren't we invisible.

RE : "'Insanity is believing your hallucinations are real. Religion is believing that other peoples' hallucinations are real.' - Dan Barker"

I like that - I'm sure you'll see it again --:D big grin

@Suzanne Olson-Hyde

"If you really followed your bible, you would have concubines, slaves, beat if not kill children -  If you need someone, in your head, to tell you what is right or wrong, you stay with that. I don't want you wandering the streets, without being 'told' you have to love your wife and children.

You want to see loads of demons, just look at the hierarchy in any religion -  christian, muslim and jewish 'faiths'.

Insanity is believing your hallucinations are real. Religion is believing that other peoples' hallucinations are real. "

The bible is not a living book. it is a dead mistranslation from original tongues with very questionable transliterations and insertions. I fault no one for wanting through the rubbish pile into Gehenna. The original tongues versions are less reproachable, but the problem is that it is dead text that can not speak for itself. This is why we must rely on the living oracles of God who must make their appearance concurrent with the fulfilment of these prophecies:

It is no secret that the Orthodox Church is pro-Romanov Dynasty and was instrumental in the families current state of adoration by the faithful. The Romonov's are of the House of Oldenburg. One of the three Houses that must be uprooted in the future by the coming Caesar/ Csar/ Tsar/ Fuhrer. Notably the prophesies speak of three houses / kings being uprooted. I take these to be the House of Hapsburg, House of Oldenburg and the House of Bourbon. These are the Houses that dominate kingdoms in Europe today and must be uprooted with the return to Imperial Roman Empire. Currently the EU is pushing eastward with Turkey at its steps. the assimilations of Turkey is just a matter of time. Next the current dialogue between the Latin Rite and the Orthodox Rite will help forge the reemergence of Christian Roman Empire, before the great apostasy of Imperial Empire with Emperor worship. Before this the cities of Rome and Constantinople, the seats of both the Latin and Orthodox Rite will regain dominance and blow life into the future apostasy. "Who is like the Beast and who can make war with it?. Putin is currently a defacto Czar of Russia, ominous sign of things to come

I-) sleepy

I haven't heard of this one, but sic 'em, AU!

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