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Permalink Reply by Cristynfaye on November 22, 2011 at 12:06pm

This.  Exactly.  It can actually be quite harmful to a child if they are not allowed to explore imaginary worlds and make believe.  This is how they learn about social skills, physics, and the way things generally work.  As they grow up, (especially if they have parents who guide them in being confident and teach them how to ask questions, and allow them to ask questions), they will begin to question things, and they will grow out of it.

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Permalink Reply by Ceci on November 22, 2011 at 12:30pm

i don't agree with you. in my profile presentation, in fact, i wrote that santa claus has been in some way my sheet anchor: when my parents told me he was an invention (i think i was 7-8 years old), my faith in god started to crumble, and i began to think about it very seriously.

i think that until parents will continue to tell their kids the santa's tale (to deny his existence later in years), some of them can still be saved by the skill of using their own mind to understand that there's no difference between god and santa.

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on November 22, 2011 at 3:58pm

Children crying over the loss of an imaginary friend that supposedly brings them gifts is not exactly something I worry greatly about. My nephew figured it out himself last year (or one of his friends convinced him). My sister was clever enough to tack on "it's the same thing with God" after he had told her.

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Permalink Reply by erik112358 on December 22, 2011 at 12:47pm

But don't you think there should be something said for letting them come to those conclusions on their own?  

Give them the tools they need to do it, and let them work it out on their own.

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Permalink Reply by Teashia Stennet on November 22, 2011 at 9:00pm

Santa is a lie, and I personally do not lie to my children. My logic is that I do not want them to lie to me so I have to be as honest as possible without being crude. If they really want to believe in Santa because everyone else does, which they did for a short period, that is their choice. But in the end they know and will always know that mom will never lie to them. I think the entire holiday season is a sad situation atheist or not, but with kids and family I feel as though my options are to isolate them and remove them from the norm of society or go along with things in a traditional type of sense. The main point is, if you want your children to trust you lie's and scare tactics are not the answer.. I want that trust!

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Permalink Reply by 3equ3cp1fsw0n on November 22, 2011 at 11:58pm

No it is not harmful. My mother would have lost her mind if she did not have the advantage of threatening to call Santa and cancel Christmas, if I and my brother did not behave. All she had to do was pick up the phone and it struck terror into our hearts. We then instantly turned into obedient little angels, for a short while, anyway lol.

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Permalink Reply by KaraC on November 23, 2011 at 2:12am

I do have some mixed feelings over this, but when all is said and done I do have some magical memories of Christmas. At the time, of course, it was Santa that made it special, but as I grew older it still remained special but in a different way. I know it was just one of the ways in which my parents showed their love for me, by creating these moments. So it is still "magic" really. I do remember asking Santa to turn me into a girl one year, maybe when I was 5 or 6. He didn't so that got me a little suspicious about the limitations of his power :-)

 I think my oldest child is now at the playing along stage, but my youngest still gets very excited about Santa, and that creates more "magic moments" for both of us. As my children come to realize the truth about Santa, it will be a little painful, but will perhaps teach them to be sceptical of all kinds of supernatural phenomena.

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Permalink Reply by Violet Chartreuse on November 23, 2011 at 7:55am

Ok. So aside from using mind games to manipulate a child, which I don't consider to be the most enlightened tool in the parenting handbook, what is the actual benefit to the child, himself, for believing in Santa? Because at the end of the day, we want what is best for our child and society, right? The only benefit I see for the child is the opportinity for them to come to the realization on their own that Santa is not real -out of critical thinking. If it is used for that direct purpose I see the value.....as long as you don't string them along or outright lie to them along the way.

Think about how valuable trust is as an adult. It is very fragile. It can be broken in an instant, and take forever to build or regain. I think we look at this as a silly little matter that if were perpetuated on us as adults, in a more sophisticated manner, with a manipulation in mind, (say, with a diety) would be considered harmful. Children's brains are in a developmental stage. I dont think that we should be psyching them up to be believing that being tricked and manipulated is fun. We are teaching them that it is darling to be duped. And that we are the ones who lied to them.

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Permalink Reply by KaraC on November 23, 2011 at 8:50pm

I constantly trick my kids by feeding them a line of BS. My youngest recently asked if it was OK to prod his belly button, and I had him going for nearly a week by telling him that he might accidentally deflate himself! They are starting to questions everything, which is sometimes annoying but mostly good :-)

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Permalink Reply by Emily Russell on November 23, 2011 at 1:52pm

I don't think the belief in Santa is harmful. But I've never told any of my children that Santa is real because I didn't want to lie to them. And, even though it didn't ruin me in any way when I figured out, as a child, that he wasn't real, it did upset me a little that I was lied to.

 

But I have always taken my children for traditional pictures of Santa and we watch Rudolph and all those cute christmas movies. I've always told them that Santa Claus is based in fact. I've told them there once was a person who we refer to as Santa Claus (St. Nicholas), that was such a good man to children that people honor him year after year by dressing up as him. They carry on the tradition of saying their gifts are from him because of what he did.He was a real person, so he died many years ago, but people still try to continue his traditions in their own way.

 

As for this man who receives the Santa mail, I think it's a wonderful thing to help those who can't help themselves and to try and give them a little something that they may not normally be able to get. Christmas or any time of the year, it's a beautiful gesture to help others.

 

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Permalink Reply by Dylan Martin on November 23, 2011 at 2:57pm

Ahhh, memories... when my sister was 5, I broke it to her that Santa isn't real...

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Permalink Reply by Clary Fernell on November 23, 2011 at 4:57pm

I think that belief in Santa (or Low Tres Reyes, or Papa Noel, or whatever else you grew up with) is a harmless bit of holiday fun, so long as it isn't taken too far into adulthood. As a child, my imagination was very rich and I loved the idea of a sort of 'Spirit of Christmas'.

Likewise, some parents may dislike the idea of letting their children believe in Santa and they are well within their rights. I don't believe that it's harmful to tell children from the start that Santa isn't real, as long as the children may exercise their imaginations and enjoy their sense of wonder before they lose it.

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