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Permalink Reply by Unseen on June 9, 2012 at 2:11pm

@Amy L. Cook

Be careful not to close your mind too tightly.

When you have no facts to support your view, it's often "You have a closed mind."

I assure you, I have changed my mind many many times about many many things. Even recently.

The problem with spiritual theses is that they are meaningless. Why are they meaningless? Because there is no proof even possible of spiritual existence. I challenge you to a very simple task: formulate a syllogism with premises that are verifiable as fact, leading to the conclusion that "spirits exist." That leaves us with scientific explanations based on physics.

To turn it around, propositions which are unfalsifiable are meaningless. If you can't say what would prove the falsity of my assertion that there's an invisible incorporeal squirrel sitting on Michelle Obama's shoulder at all times, then what substance could there be to the assertion in the first place. Asserting that something is a spirit is exactly the same. 

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Permalink Reply by Doug Reardon on June 13, 2012 at 11:56pm

Always consider these three facts:

1. People misperceive/misinterpret.

2. People hallucinate.

3. People lie. 

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Permalink Reply by Dale Headley on June 16, 2012 at 3:25pm

1) Atheism is the absence of belief in any kind of deity.

2) "Spiritual" in the sense that you describe it is "bull%&$#."

3) No

4) No.  And what qualifies a person for being called a "spiritual atheist" is a deep-seated fear/reluctance to completely abandon the concept of a Supreme Deity of some kind.  As far as I'm concerned, the term "spiritual atheist" is an oxymoron.

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