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Permalink Reply by Michael on June 6, 2012 at 1:38pm

As I already said, I do not like to leave people comfortable in their established paradigms. Everyone should objectively entertain everthing whether it is Deism or Atheism. This is my mantra and the mission of the Michael icon.

And please read my reply to James Cox.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on June 6, 2012 at 1:45pm

So...what's your take on Leprechauns? gold at the end of the rainbow? wishbones?

There are plenty more realistic paradigms to make people uncomfortable about, but no, you go right for the ridiculous and obviously looney.

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Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on June 6, 2012 at 10:38pm

@Unseen

Thank you for conveying my thoughts so precisely while I was at work.  I can't even think of any other way of wording that response that would be more accurate.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on June 6, 2012 at 10:43pm

:)

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Permalink Reply by Michael on June 7, 2012 at 9:40pm

Please read my reply to Unseen

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Permalink Reply by Michael on June 7, 2012 at 9:39pm

Unseen you definitely have the right to spend the night in the house. The owner wasn't having anymore of it. You can put on blinders or investigate the source of the mystery or familiarize yourself with any research by reputable science. But this kicking up at everything you hear, most certianly won't allow you to swing on a star and be better off than you are.

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on June 7, 2012 at 9:52pm

Michael, you need to learn that there's a fine line between having an open mind and having a hole in the head. As far as I'm concerned all you do in these cases is act like a metaphysical gossip and pass around ridiculous rumors.

What standards does someone have who believes what they see on an entertainment program on a channel devoted to fiction of all things? or on Youtube? I'd expect a middle school boy to be that credulous!

Is there anything dubious or ridiculous or impossible that you DON'T believe?

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Permalink Reply by Michael on June 7, 2012 at 10:08pm

Unseen your logic escapes me. "Oh this is the SciFi channel, therefore everything on it is SciFi." 

Permalink Reply by Amy L. Cook on June 9, 2012 at 1:49pm

Be careful not to close your mind too tightly.

Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on June 9, 2012 at 9:19pm

@Amy

Are you seriously suggesting that intelligent, rational people should spend time considering the potential authenticity of haunted houses featured on the SciFi network?

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Permalink Reply by James Cox on June 6, 2012 at 9:31pm

Dear Michael:

Hope you are well.

It is unclear if we can practically speeking 'entertain everything'. This is a tall order even for the best minds.

Making it your job to 'not leave people comfortable in their established paradigms', seems interesting, but might also be unworkable. Some atheists seem to also desire this job, but I for one desire a greater degree of peace.

It is unclear if absolute truth is obtainable, but very good provisional truths seem possible and a few obtained. From these few, atheists and others, have made determinations, atleast for themselves that the state of the 'world and universe' does not include or demand the existence of diety. Some deeper truths might/will still rest ahead of us, but will that deeper understanding demand a different determination for that existence? We know that pure water boils at approx. 212 degrees F., but will adding ten more desimal places be of any help?

It would be wonderful to find one more great detail about the world via the supposed picture/vids of 'spirits', but it appears that n+1 pictures will not help. Something more might be demanded of a real researcher with high end sensing equipment, and/or a detail in present/future theory that might account for it. What would be needed? What would be the cost? Who would take on the task? So far it seems that only hobbyists with limited means and the desire to sell some sensationalist drivel. This might be sad to some of us.   

Would the knowledge be useful? Maybe we are looking at the behavior of dark matter, or the expression of something never ever conceaved of, or the creative work of a charlatine seeking to create belief via fraud.

I happily I am not a complete cynic. 

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Permalink Reply by Michael on June 6, 2012 at 10:05pm

A neutrino can change flavor or enity in mid flight:

Particles don't oscillate--change from one "flavor" to another--as they travel through the ether. Or do they? The mysterious neutrino, shot from the interior of the Sun through space, through Earth's atmosphere, through you, through your pet cow Bessie, through your schoolhouse walls, starts out as one flavor and becomes one of-or alternately both of-two other possible flavors. The three neutrino flavors are muon, tau, and electron. This and many recent discoveries hint of a deeper reality than we undersand. Not to mention that 95 % of the universe is dark energy, an energy that we can not detect with any instrumentation.  We might as will call it ghost energy. So with most of the matter and energy in the universe being undectable, why are we so arrogant rule out unseen enities that may pervade and permeate our realm.

 

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