Is Barack Obama Insane?
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
Is our president insane?
When pushing the stimulus package he was all about bipartisanship. He insisted on creating a bipartisan bill that even Republicans could get on board with. He cut several things including things that EVERY economist agree are some of the best forms of economic stimulus like unemployment benefits and food stamps. All in the name of satisfying Republicans in the Senate. In the end it netted him THREE Republican votes between the House AND Senate and one of those 3 GOPers jumped ship to the Dems a week later.
So now Health Care Reform rolls along and he insists on a bipartisan bill again. OK... fair enough. Health Care Reform is something everyone knows we need and nearly every American wants. Let's give the Repubs a chance to redeem themselves and prove that they aren't the "Party of NO." Months into the debate and there has been no progress at all. Every single Republican in the the House and Senate STILL oppose the Bill. Many of them are guilty of starting or proliferating egregious lies ranging from taking money away from Medicare all the way up to this utterly ridiculous death panel garbage. He's even been betrayed by the man that was supposed to be the go-to guy to get Republicans behind Health Reform, Senator Chuck Grassley. In the past week Senator Grassley has not only tried to lend credence to the death panel bullshit but has now publicly stated that he will NOT vote for a bill - even if he supports it himself - unless it garners widespread Republican support. Basically saying the party comes before anything else (including the health and well being of the American people) and he'd rather kill a good bill than betray his party. At the same time he's been slamming Obama for alleged "intellectual dishonesty" (a claim he has yet to back up with any substance.) In perhaps his most disgusting move, Grassley even invoked the name of Senator Edward Kennedy in a recent Twitter war of words with Arlen Specter; making the (false) assertion that in an UK or Canada-style, state-run health system Senator Kennedy would be denied cancer treatment due to his advanced age.
And this is the great mediator, the compromiser that was going to spearhead bipartisan support for health care reform.
Yet still despite all of this we keep hearing Obama talk about bipartisanship. He even praised Senator Grassley YESTERDAY during a speech for his outstanding work on the health care reform bill. He refuses to let go of this idea of a bipartisan bill. Ignoring the fact that he doesn't need a SINGLE Republican vote to pass the bill through the House or Senate and ignoring the fact that the Party of No that he's reached out to since his inauguration continues to spew lies and half truths while slamming him and dragging him through the mud every chance they get. Yet he continues to reach out.
He reached out his hand in friendship, they responded by punching him in the mouth and spitting on him while he was down, so he gets up and reaches his hand out again. And again. And again...
So I ask you, going by Albert Einstein's definition, is President Barack Obama insane? Or is do you think there is some kind of master plan here that myself and other increasingly frustrated supports of Health Care Reform are missing? What has happened to our bastion of Hope, America's beacon of change?
Albert Einstein
Is our president insane?
When pushing the stimulus package he was all about bipartisanship. He insisted on creating a bipartisan bill that even Republicans could get on board with. He cut several things including things that EVERY economist agree are some of the best forms of economic stimulus like unemployment benefits and food stamps. All in the name of satisfying Republicans in the Senate. In the end it netted him THREE Republican votes between the House AND Senate and one of those 3 GOPers jumped ship to the Dems a week later.
So now Health Care Reform rolls along and he insists on a bipartisan bill again. OK... fair enough. Health Care Reform is something everyone knows we need and nearly every American wants. Let's give the Repubs a chance to redeem themselves and prove that they aren't the "Party of NO." Months into the debate and there has been no progress at all. Every single Republican in the the House and Senate STILL oppose the Bill. Many of them are guilty of starting or proliferating egregious lies ranging from taking money away from Medicare all the way up to this utterly ridiculous death panel garbage. He's even been betrayed by the man that was supposed to be the go-to guy to get Republicans behind Health Reform, Senator Chuck Grassley. In the past week Senator Grassley has not only tried to lend credence to the death panel bullshit but has now publicly stated that he will NOT vote for a bill - even if he supports it himself - unless it garners widespread Republican support. Basically saying the party comes before anything else (including the health and well being of the American people) and he'd rather kill a good bill than betray his party. At the same time he's been slamming Obama for alleged "intellectual dishonesty" (a claim he has yet to back up with any substance.) In perhaps his most disgusting move, Grassley even invoked the name of Senator Edward Kennedy in a recent Twitter war of words with Arlen Specter; making the (false) assertion that in an UK or Canada-style, state-run health system Senator Kennedy would be denied cancer treatment due to his advanced age.
And this is the great mediator, the compromiser that was going to spearhead bipartisan support for health care reform.
Yet still despite all of this we keep hearing Obama talk about bipartisanship. He even praised Senator Grassley YESTERDAY during a speech for his outstanding work on the health care reform bill. He refuses to let go of this idea of a bipartisan bill. Ignoring the fact that he doesn't need a SINGLE Republican vote to pass the bill through the House or Senate and ignoring the fact that the Party of No that he's reached out to since his inauguration continues to spew lies and half truths while slamming him and dragging him through the mud every chance they get. Yet he continues to reach out.
He reached out his hand in friendship, they responded by punching him in the mouth and spitting on him while he was down, so he gets up and reaches his hand out again. And again. And again...
So I ask you, going by Albert Einstein's definition, is President Barack Obama insane? Or is do you think there is some kind of master plan here that myself and other increasingly frustrated supports of Health Care Reform are missing? What has happened to our bastion of Hope, America's beacon of change?
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Permalink Reply by Misty: Baytheist Living! on -
Unconstitutional? Fuck all that! I think water-boarding should be MANDATORY for anyone that wants to teach scuba diving rescue swimming or become a dive medic.
In fact, I'll gladly start a course dedicated to it.
Who's first?
Reggie?
Dave?
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Permalink Reply by Dave G on -
One of those 'this is what will happen to you if you don't pay attention in class' lessons, Misty? :)
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Permalink Reply by Reggie on -
If you would like to take on the Supreme Court, then by all means be my guest.
I laughed out loud.
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Permalink Reply by H. Rearden on -
You don't understand. If you believe that the government can do whatever is necessary and proper then the government has cart blanche to do anything by claiming that whatever they want to do is necessary and proper. That is why things are the way they are today and why government does not follow the Constitution and gets larger and larger. So do you really believe that it is ok for the federal government to take money from the states and dole some of it back to the states only if the states do what the federal government wants? Do you really believe that the framers of the Constitution intended for the federal government to do that?
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Permalink Reply by H. Rearden on
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And who decides what is lawfully necessary and proper? The messiah? So the SCOTUS decided in 1803 that it had the authority to grant itself the authority to interpret the Constitution. That is like arguing that the bible is true because it says it is.
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Permalink Reply by SabreNation on -
LOL, you reinforce my point about Paul-ites and Bible literalists being almost one in the same every time you post. You're talking to a person who has studied the constitution - inside and out, top to bottom - as part of their legal education and telling her that *SHE* is the one that does not understand the Constitution. Not you, who's only stated qualification on the subject is apparent unyielding support for the constitutional/political equivalent of Ken Ham.
Let's see if the Paul-ite thing sails right over your head for a second time...
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Permalink Reply by H. Rearden on
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Many people who are in the legal profession including members of the SCOTUS either don't understand what the Constitution means or believe in this ridiculous idea that it is a living document. I knew what was intended by Paul-ite. Just because I pointed out something that is true about Dr. Paul in a post does not make me a Paul-ite. It is true that Paul is a champion of the Constitution. Again you resort to ad hominems. What you don't get is that the Constitution is not suppose to be like the bible and interpreted thousands of different ways by people who want to interpret it in a way that supports their political agenda. You don't need a law degree to understand what it means. It is not written in legalease. It says exactly what it means. You don't have to ask what "is" is like some disbard lawyer from AR. If all contracts were treated the way many people treat the constitution contracts would be meaningless because the meaning of them would change to met one's changing interest or whims. A person could say 3 years after entering into a contract that hey 3 years ago it meant A but that was 3 years ago. today it means B simply because they want it to mean B when it clearly means A. I understand the Constitution because I understand the English language and the Constitution was written in English. It's not rocket science and it is not a religious holy book to be interpreted.
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Permalink Reply by SabreNation on
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I usually try to refrain from pointless dead horse beatings but:
How many ways can you spell "owned"?
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Permalink Reply by Reggie on
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Yeah, arguing points of law with a recent graduate of a top notch law school is.....quite amusing in this particular case. I'm grinning ear to ear.
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Permalink Reply by Frink on -
I don't know, but he needs to pull his head out of his ass and cut the repugs LOOSE.
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Permalink Reply by Doug Reardon on -
"I'd much prefer living in a capitalistic society where I know my hard work, education, and a good helping of good fortune are going to be rewarded."
And you "Know" this how?
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Permalink Reply by H. Rearden on
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Doug it is ashame that there isn't a capitalistic place. It wouuld be great if the U.S.A. had a free market economy.
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