I was deep in thought today at work, and remembered how I was told that I 'was formed in my mother's womb by God himself.' Here is Psalm 139:13-16 from the New Living Translation:
13 You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body
and knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex!
Your workmanship is marvelous—how well I know it.
15 You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion,
as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16 You saw me before I was born.
Every day of my life was recorded in your book.
Every moment was laid out
before a single day had passed.
If this is the case, let me throw a hypothetical (but not so hypothetical) at you. Let's say two gay atheist men get married. One worked on Wall St. and the other a very successful business man, therefore they are financially sound. They want children of their own and come up with a genius idea: to take one of their sperm samples, and an egg from the sister of the other, artificially inseminate, and the sister act as a surrogate mother. The money is there to cover all expenses, and the sister is more than supportive and decides to show her support by agreeing to carry the child to term.
1. Would this baby in the womb, being created by two people who 1) don't believe in God, and 2) are a practicing gay couple (the downfall of America according to Pat Robertson), still be totally built by God AND be included in God's ultimate plan?
2. Will the child still be a part of God's plan even though the child (male and female twins in this case) will most likely grow up to be atheist? According to the above excerpt from one great piece of fictional literature, yes.
3. So would it be fair to argue that atheism is a part of God's plan?
This 'hypothetical' is actually not hypothetical at all. A man I used to work for years ago was married to the man of his dreams and they went through with this. My boss's sister carried twins to term and bore them. What a fantastic story.
Everything that unfolds has been foreseen and pre-ordained.
Then there is the question, "How can we be judged, since, who can resists his will?"
It is written, "he makes pots of clay, in order to glorify the pots of gold and silver"(sic).
Well from our perspective this does not seem fair. But "the universe is subjected to futility by the same who also subjects it to hope." "A great work he shall make of earth but he shall cut it short on account of righteousness."(sic)
You are making your own decisions. When Pharaoh did not let Israel go, it was his own decision. We are all tempted to disobey God. Pharaoh gave in to temptation being harden by environmental factors and likely spiritual obsession.
Every day we are all confronted with temptation. Failing to resist temptation will result in adultery, larceny, corruption, genocide, lies, idolatry, fortunetelling and lasciviousness.
In general, things that incur the wrath of God
But you're implying God is sending us to Hell for pleasure or enjoyment or punishment ... from what I hear , it is because God loves us sooooooooooooooooooooooo much , he respects our choice of free will in denying his 'Love' ... sure it makes no sense , but in this view , God doesn't 'create' Atheists. He has a book , he has people to spread his word and we have the 'choice' to accept the Gospels and Pauls writings.
I just thought of something ... is there anyone that has ever fully believed God exists and the Christian Gospels BUT declared openly to the God he / she thought existed that they were denying God and wished to spend eternity in Hell?
So .... really .... Atheists wouldn't be the only ones burning : D , people who also believed in Yahweh could STILL go to Hell for refusing the offerings of Jesus' forgiveness of sins.
AHHHHHHHHHH , thinking of Christian doctrines always makes my head spin. It's a good exercise for the mind , that's for sure lol
LoL , I remember Dinesh D'souza going on a long ass rant about how amputees are no less happy than those with all limbs ... so there would be no reason to 'heal' them because they are already healthy and normal in a spiritual sense. "Why would they need to be healed for they have nothing wrong with them and nothing to be healed OF?" ...
I wanted to punch him through my computer screen when I heard this apologetic acrobatics ....