Hello, everyone. I was an atheist until at the age of 27 I began to study the Bible in order to debunk it. I learned quickly that the Bible was grossly misrepresented by apostate Christendom's adoption of pagan teachings such as the immortal soul from Socrates, the trinity from Plato, the cross from Constantine, hell from Dante and Milton, Easter from Astarte, Christmas from the winter solstice celebrations, and most recently the Rapture from Darby.
Though I have never and will never be a part of organized religion, my beliefs are not entirely dissimilar to that of The Jehovah's Witnesses, due to the removal of the aforementioned pagan influence. I have studied briefly the history of the major world religions, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Shintoism and Taoism and have published sacred and non-sacred texts from each of these online: The Dhammapada, Four Noble Truths, Paradise Lost, Divine Comedy, Analects Of Confucius, Bhagavad Gita, Qur'an, Pirqe Aboth, Nihongi, Kojiki, Tao Te Ching and Chuang Tzu.
Having been an atheist most of my life and given that nearly everyone I know is atheist, I think I understand and respect where most of you are coming from. I don't believe in "converting" anyone to anything, but I do think the atheist tends to be mislead when it comes to the Bible. Not that that matters much, except for that I do enjoy, given the opportunity, to correct them in thoughtful and polite discussion and debate.
I hope we can have some interesting conversations.
Ok, muppet, if I were to say that our days may come to 100 or even 110 for the strongest, my statement would be true but it would not represent the typical longevity of our population.
It is no surprise that this escapes you give that in 17+ years of 'theistic debate' you failed even to learn the term deist, and lack even the skills to look it up before ignorantly evaluating your own position as being non-deist.
You have done this with your bible from the earliest pages, grabbing onto any apologetic you can no matter how flimsy or outright fallacious.
And then, in your superlative ignorance you have to audacity to come here and accuse others of missing the obvious? Wow, just wow.
Who wrote it down for me, David? And what are his credentials, that I might gauge the validity of what he wrote?
And what would that "blatantly obvious" thing be that fucks me all up? You're babbling in generalities, and you need to be specific. I've no time for guessing games.
Great. And how many is that?
How many did you say there was? 900? I'd say then about 899. I don't know. I used to have hundreds on my website. Who cares?
Why not join the Jehovah's Witnesses?
How many of the 41,000 Christian denominations in the world did you speak to before forming that opinion?
I don't have to talk to them all, I wouldn't join any organized religion. Can you name one Christian denomination besides the JWs that don't cling dogedly to pagan apostasy? Hell. Trinity. Cross. Easter.
What is it about Christianity that made you exclude Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Scientology, and all the others?
You do realize I could ask you the same, don't you? Only including Christianity. Why is it that atheist tend to doubt the confidence of believers as if it were an insult to their own position?
Do you agree with God's law and thus advocate chopping off a woman's hand for seizing a scrotum? Would you chop it off yourself or ask someone else to do it?
If I were in ancient Israel, yes I would. But the Mosaic Law was no longer in effect after Christ's sacrifice.
For the sake of any grabby women out there, I am glad you chose Christianity and not Judaism!
You're a monster.
Lol. Sounds like a perfect example of moral relativism, doesn't it? It was right to chop off the woman's hand in ancient Israel, but that no longer applies, so now it is wrong. Ludicrous.
Laws and their foundation in generally accepted social norms (morality) change over time.There's no reason to vilify someone over a hypothetical. In fact, it's disingenuous to the extreme to first ask for it, then condemn a person for responding.
I might understand waking the guy with a stick, but how did the woman get a hold on the fellow's package? Why can't women get an award for such an act, trying to stop violence?
Are you familiar with the clothes of the day?
Even today's rules are against a chick kicking a dude's balls into his nostrils. Think about it.
I tend not to run in such circles. This sounds more like a drunken brall, having a rabbi present might create some concern over propriety. If 'cloths of the day', means a simple tunic, with little room for imagination, why would anyone care. Grabing a guy's big toe, or biting off an ear should cause greater unhappyness.
I assume there were 11 geography related questions then. ;)
I agree that the Bible is misrepresented by most if not nearly all of its adherents. How do you deal with the inconsistencies within the text itself? The god I see described there can be wise, but is often petulant. At its worst though, it is an apologist for the some of the most heinous crimes humanity (or divinity) has to offer. Is it more of anthology of disassociated thinkers/zealots, or was it just edited/curated by agenda driven bishops that couldn't agree?
I don't pretend to have the sort of background you describe for yourself, but I read the Bible about three times through when I was young, which lead me to explore many of the other philosophical options. I landed here a few months ago, and this is the first time I've self described as an Atheist.
This might be a bit of a slow time here, but I've seen as many as 250 posts in a day. 90% of them have been thought provoking and respectful, and the rest seem still somewhat based upon real feelings generated by bad behavior of theists or responses to real or perceived slights or disrespect.
Welcome and discuss.