Hello, everyone. I was an atheist until at the age of 27 I began to study the Bible in order to debunk it. I learned quickly that the Bible was grossly misrepresented by apostate Christendom's adoption of pagan teachings such as the immortal soul from Socrates, the trinity from Plato, the cross from Constantine, hell from Dante and Milton, Easter from Astarte, Christmas from the winter solstice celebrations, and most recently the Rapture from Darby.

Though I have never and will never be a part of organized religion, my beliefs are not entirely dissimilar to that of The Jehovah's Witnesses, due to the removal of the aforementioned pagan influence. I have studied briefly the history of the major world religions, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Shintoism and Taoism and have published sacred and non-sacred texts from each of these online: The Dhammapada, Four Noble Truths, Paradise Lost, Divine Comedy, Analects Of Confucius, Bhagavad Gita, Qur'an, Pirqe Aboth, Nihongi, Kojiki, Tao Te Ching and Chuang Tzu.

Having been an atheist most of my life and given that nearly everyone I know is atheist, I think I understand and respect where most of you are coming from. I don't believe in "converting" anyone to anything, but I do think the atheist tends to be mislead when it comes to the Bible. Not that that matters much, except for that I do enjoy, given the opportunity, to correct them in thoughtful and polite discussion and debate.

I hope we can have some interesting conversations.

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Hey, Reg,

I would expect a Fronkey Farmer to be chilled out.

I'm not a JW. Never have been, never will be a part of any organized religious or political group. I like thinking on my own without such blinders.

My belief is similar to the JWs on all three of the points you mentioned, I would suspect. I don't know if I would go so far as to say Moses understood fully the health reasons for "quarantine."

The Nitrogen Cycle? I'm not familiar with the Bible having mentioned that. Could you reference it? And The JWs having said it?

Isaiah definitely wrote that the word was a "globe," "circle," chugh.

Can I define the God I believe in? No. Not to an atheist.

Can I define Atheism? Yes. The nonsensical denial in the existence of a god or gods.

What objective evidence led me to convert? Can you define objective?

It sounds to me like you are boasting for having reduced the numbers of the local JW congregation by 5. They, meaning the congregation as well as the 5, would thank you. They call that "weeding out the unfaithful," or "testing the weak." They would consider the congregation as better off from this process, and the 5 would agree it was better off for themselves. 

Can I define the God I believe in? No.

You lose then. You basically said you can't even define your god / position. Without a clear definition you cannot defend it.

It would be great if you would properly answer Reg's post. Until now, you truly have not impressed anyone here. You are exactly like the other ex-atheists who come here, but when they're called out, asked to provide some solid reasoning for why they converted, they have to pathetically resort to playing word games.

"Define _____ " (while I conveniently ignore the question)

That won't work here. We could play the same game. Every time you ask us something we could just say "define the word 'the'" and puss out. Objective is NOT a word whose definition is up to much debate.

kOrsan,

I've defined the word God many times here already. I even gave about 100 examples of gods mentioned in the Bible. I've defined the word in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek and Latin. Don't give me your atheist bullshit because we both know there is nothing I can say to you or any other atheist about the God I believe in, Jehovah, that will appease you. And I sure as fuck don't give a rats ass about impressing a bunch of quasi free thinking atheists gathered 'round licking their wounds.

You define your mother to me and I will define my God to you.

Don't presume to tell me what will work here, I've been doing this for nearly 2 decades. The only thing that will work here is to agree with you.

Then why are you here at all?

Your stance is basically

I can't change anything. I will never change my mind, no matter what the facts are. I am stubborn, and I am aware of it.

Which implies you're here solely to troll.

Oh yeah, my mother is a woman. She gave birth to me (hence mother), she is old, she is tangible, visible, and merciful.

Now please define your god, and whether he is tangible, visible and merciful.

Again, pitiful word games aren't going to work here. Either be intellectually honest and step up to a challenge.

Or concede to being a troll with no intention of learning anything.

And 2 decades of "doing this" has left you with nothing it seems.

@k0rsan

Ha ha ha!  If he IS a troll, then you successfully trolled the troll, LOL.  And yeah, he's getting really ticked off because his vague, pseudo-academic references don't stand up to any scrutiny, and we've actually scrutinized!  :D

It's clear he isn't used to being scrutinized. That would explain why it was so easy for him to convert to Christianity in the first place.

He's also not at all unlike the other theists we got here, who lost their calm the moment they were called out to provide some objective evidence. But how can you expect objective evidence from someone who loses his objectivity the moment he gets asked for it in the first place. Might as well yell allahu akbar and demand us to be stoned for questioning him.

We need more than "I studied the bible."

And I like how they always say "I studied the bible/quran/co."

As opposed to simply "I read it and believed it." Which is what really happened, to be frank.

Like I said, it's all about word games with these people.

It's clear he isn't used to being scrutinized. That would explain why it was so easy for him to convert to Christianity in the first place.

Which I haven't. And I love being scrutinized. I only wish it were in a sensible manner.

@David Henson

You said: "And I love being scrutinized. I only wish it were in a sensible manner."

I do find it odd, then, that you haven't acknowledged your error in regard to that 'firmament' which we discussed.  I mean I illustrated clearly he gap in qualifications between our sources so that you might know up to what standards you might be held here - and you have yet to reply.

Ever been 'scrutinized' by folks that have a real axe to grind? It can be very unsettling. Some pull it off so well, that a Grand Inquisitor could be but to shame..

Ha ha ha!  If he IS a troll, then you successfully trolled the troll, LOL.  And yeah, he's getting really ticked off because his vague, pseudo-academic references don't stand up to any scrutiny, and we've actually scrutinized!  :D

Yeah. Heather, maybe you will agree with me. There is nothing more obtuse than an over educated idiot. Or Rabbinic tradition.

GM - RE: "You have indeed harmed a great many of us." - I can't speak for anyone other than myself, but I don't give them enough power to harm me - for their words to harm anyone, that person has to care about what they say, and I don't.

RE: "his words aren't wounding me" - I was never worried about that for a second, you can more than hold your own.

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