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Permalink Reply by Unseen on May 17, 2012 at 10:13pm

Well, but those are things the poor country needs to do, but they lack the resources. The richer country lacks jurisdiction.

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Permalink Reply by Jim Minion on May 17, 2012 at 10:51pm

Forget hypothetical

Clinton signs NAFTA, we then flood subsidize corn into Mexico which was their largest cash crop and bankrupt farmers. We then allow illegals into the country during the Bush years at record numbers and very low deportation numbers. End results you can keep wages down.

Now the number of illegals coming across the boarder is net zero. We have been deporting illegals at record numbers for the last three years. The average Mexican family is having 2 children.

The US has about 5% of the worlds population but has 25% of the total prison population . The drug laws in the US account for more than half of the prison population.Got to love corporate prisons, incarceration for profit.

Welcome to the US where the three branches of government can be purchased.

But illegal immigration is our problem.

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on May 17, 2012 at 11:42pm

Makes you wonder who sponsors "Unseen" - Arizona Governor Jan Brewer?

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on May 18, 2012 at 7:17am

Because I started a thread so we could discuss it?

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Permalink Reply by Ed on May 18, 2012 at 8:39am

Economically it would make more sense to legalize drugs. I am not sure what the social ramifications would be though. But eliminating marijuana, cocaine, and heroine as products for the Mexican cartels to peddle on Americans would be an interesting step. Don't see that happening anytime soon. 

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on May 18, 2012 at 1:11am

I couldn't have said it better --

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Permalink Reply by Ed on May 18, 2012 at 8:34am

A wonderful sentiment indeed. But it comes with a price- the requirement to LEGALLY immigrate. Millions of immigrants have become naturalized citizens and proud Americans. But they took the necessary steps to do it legally. We don't need double standards; we need real enforcement of existing immigration laws.

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on May 18, 2012 at 8:52am

I'm betting the Native Americans wish they'd had such laws in place --

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on May 18, 2012 at 9:07am

Unfortunately, tribes do not a country make.

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Permalink Reply by javier on May 18, 2012 at 5:38pm

Legal citizenship. more trade. protection of the boarders. the solution must be systematic. dealing with groups of people and  stoping them from acting in their best intrest is problematic  I.E. denying them entry into a nation that is more prosperous. laws will not stop migrants obviously. so deal with both illegal and legal migrants according to the way your nation can benefit from the situation. right?  

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Permalink Reply by javier on May 18, 2012 at 5:53pm

what would you do ? 

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Permalink Reply by Unseen on May 18, 2012 at 7:26pm

I'm not sure I have the solution, but we already have a way for people to become naturalized citizens. Perhaps we need a guest worker program for people who don't really want to be citizens but just want work in order to keep people from doing an end run around the citizenship procedure. I imagine most citizens of a poorer who cross the border would really prefer to remain citizens of their country of origin as it is their homeland and it is where their family roots are.

The obvious solution is to bring the economies of the two countries closer to parity. However, if the poorer country lacks the resources to address the problem and its administrative infrastructure (police, judiciary, politicians, local administrators) are corrupt, it's a hopeless job without drastic action on the part of the more prosperous country.

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