If you are a non- believer in, all that you do is being recorded in the heavens, why be moral when no one is looking?
If there are no records and no witness, why not do anything you want?
If no one sees you do it, then is it a deed not done?
If all of this is true, then why do we have a conscience, where did it come.
We are told in scriptures that our conscience is our natural way of doing God's will in the absence of his Law.
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I have to disagree with you there, Evonda.
The pre-socialised child will indulge their un-monitored automatic responses to their environment. The adult with damage to the forward-most parts of the frontal lobes (usually due to a motor vehicle accident or due to a particular kind of stroke) will do the same thing. If something causes them pain they will lash out at whatever they think is causing it, without considering the ramifications. If their automatic behavior causes them to make a mistake, then it will happen over and over again.
Adults may be able to verbalize what is happening or predict that they will make a particular mistake at a particular point in a puzzle or activity, but they do not have the power to prevent it happening because they have no control over their automated and automatic behavior.
Once these parts of the brain are destroyed there is no way to compensate for their loss. The victim is permanently unable to do anything other than follow their automatic responses - which may be the end result of years of learning and practice or may simply be a knee jerk reaction to a strong stimulus.
For example, a head-injured nurse who was asked to collect and test a patient's urine mystified her superiors when she consistently threw the urine in the toilet without testing it. She could repeat the instructions perfectly and had no idea why she could not follow them. A famous radio evangelist who was in a nursing home after a stroke which affected his frontal lobes would horrify Christians who visited him and found him openly masturbating or watched hitting staff people who accidentally bumped into him. He was perfectly capable of murder if he were sufficiently provoked into a rage as he had no way of calming himself down or controlling his instinctual behavior to "protect" himself.
Humans, and other social animals, are actively taught how to suppress their instinctual responses when they are counter to the values and good of the group. Their community will reinforce the learning by punishing them if they do not conform. That is how "good" behavior is learned and the social conscience is formed.
Remove the frontal lobes and the social teaching process and you have a biological entity that will act without thinking of consequences, even when the action will kill them. When this failure of socialization is caused by genetic aberration the victims remove themselves from the gene pool, unless they are protected by society in such a way that they are given the chance to breed or unless the impairment is not total (think of sociopaths who are capable of disguising their lack of appropriate socialization.)
Sociopathic personalities comprise the majority of CEO's of major corporations
Any evidence for this claim? Not saying that there aren't any, but 'a majority' is way off the mark. Which current CEOs would you label as sociopaths and why?
I deserve some of that, I think. While what I said added to the discussion (I think) it was not entirely pertinent to what you said. Sorry about that. I make mistakes!
A bit less eloquent than I'd put it, but I agree fully.
People are innately programmed to do mostly good, and the easiest way to make them do bad choices is to add religion.
Very well put. I wish I'd said that.
The thing is, the biblical record includes multiple instances of people doing utterly horrific things in the name of the Yahweh god, including sacrificing or preparing to sacrifice children, slaughtering babies, ham-stringing horses, raping and making sex slaves of women, stoning people to death, and so on and on an on. Worse, it seems that many of these Yahweh followers feel quite good about it, not even just OK.
Can you just hear it:
How gracious you are in your mercy towards me and your never ending love towards all mankind (I don't have to include women here, do I?)
I worship thee, O Lord. I have slaughtered the innocent in your name. I have cut the throats of lambs and burnt their flesh for you on numerous occasions. I have raped when you told me to rape and murdered when you told me to murder. I have never failed to torture or mistreat animals or humans when you have demanded it. I have been steadfast in my duty to stone my children for their disobedience and give my daughter to her rapist in marriage. etc. etc. etc.
Oh, what a good boy am I!
Michael has more than proven that he is just a troll - 'pushing' some primitive tribal beliefs. Deal me out.
Well before you leave I hope you get a lot of sympathy from the pet chimpanzee that tore the face off the owners friend and also gouged her eyes out and bet off her hands. And don't snuggle up to close to the pitbull that recently mauled it's pregnant owner to death. Sure signs of a conscience being exhibited in lower species and clearly showing where we evolved from.
What a crock of nonsense.