If in killing a woman her unborn baby is killed as well...

Charge the killer with a double murder or not?

Suppose she doesn't die but the baby does?

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Strega, by "all the time" I didn't mean anywhere during the growth cycle of the fetus. It applies only to viable fetuses. 

Since babies are saved from dead mothers all over the world and not just in the US, I'm sure it must happen all the time. By which I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if babies are saved from dead mothers at least several times a day.

BTW, "all the time" isn't an absolute. "Always" is an absolute.


"I googled "baby removed from dead mother" and got 54,000,000 links."

I googled "Unseen" and got 45,700,000 links...HOLY SHIT how many of you are there???

Maybe a bunch of links isn't evidence of anything useful.

It happens often enough for me to say it happens all the time (by which I mean often enough that I don't slap my forehead in amazement anymore). These are the result of about 20 minutes of googling, and all happened in the U.S. within a 12-month period:

6/5/2012 http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/2-killed-in-fiery-us-231-crash-b...

7/6/2012 http://www.kpho.com/story/18961667/baby-fighting-for-life-after-pre...

8/5/2012 http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Unborn-baby-saved-in-rollover-crash-...

9/29/2012 http://eastgreenwich.patch.com/articles/pregnant-woman-killed-in-ro...

12/27/2012 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/miracle-baby-survives-cras...

1/6/2013 http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2013/01/05/Husband-was-drivi...

3/3/2013 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57572289/infant-delivered-after...

Also, the following article lists three instances of women murdered then their babies cut out of them:


On the Criminal side what sentences have already been handed down for the defendant when the victim has receive a permanent injury.  An example would be where the victim lost their spleen, uterus or limb as a result of the criminal action.

On the Civil side what  monetary awards that have already been handed down for the emotional loss in similar cases?  An example would be where a woman had entered a hospital for a routine procedure, had received the wrong medication which caused a spontaneous abortion.

There will be plenty of existing cases in the law library.

Very good questions, Gregg

Must have been someone else using my login. :D

I'm stealing that excuse, for the next time I say something stupid.

I don't know who said that, musta been someone else using his login. :D

That stupid thing could happen any minute now - what time is it?

It is imperative that all men have their testicles removed at age 25, our country requires only young dads for the good of their unborn future heirs, men over 25 do not have the right to impregnate women.  The needs of the State supersede the rights of the individual, for the good of our nation NO MORE OLD DADS!!! 

Men as a group cannot be trusted to make proper value judgements about their own body's, therefore we must take away from them the right to decide what happens to certain areas inside their skin.

Being a second class citizen is the new KOOL.


I live in America, a country founded upon individual civil liberty, men and women own their own biological processes, making a new human is a biological process that occurs inside an individual citizen and is not the domain of the State.

I agree, Gregg! No more seatbelt laws! No motorcycle brain-bucket laws! No more laws against suicide! Power to the People!

I couldn't agree more.

I wore a seatbelt today, not because there was a law saying I had to, I wore a seatbelt today because I chose to.

I wore my brain-bucket today, not because there was a law saying I had to, I wore my brain-bucket today because I chose to.

I didn't commit suicide today, not because there was a law saying I couldn't, I didn't commit suicide today, because I chose not to.

Power to the Rational Mind.


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