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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on February 5, 2011 at 2:36pm

Good point. But just to play devil's advocate [pun intended], I have said similar things to theists about the inconsistency of the notion of free will and an omnipotent God. And the response is usually...

 

"Well, God wants us to love him and obey him... but he also wants us to have a choice. He doesn't want to force us."

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Permalink Reply by Alex on February 5, 2011 at 7:10pm

I'd say:

 

"It's not a choice of free will. It's blackmail."

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Permalink Reply by Mark Kirschner on July 2, 2012 at 10:42pm

I think that our individual awareness somehow draws the stuff and situations of our daily lives. And our "free will'  is to pick what we like and what we don't like. what we see as wrong and what we see as right. Or we can let go of the entanglements of desire and repulsion. and fully accept the present moment with all of its joy and horror.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Kirschner on June 29, 2012 at 5:57pm

If there is only one; Not god not man,but mind; then the notion of sin becomes one of local discord: i e the idea that something is not right and some things are. If you remove the duality of god and man, then you remove the idea of right, wrong, preferred, and not preferred. All opposites in the realm of phenomenon are cancelled by each other. All that remains is the one.  

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Permalink Reply by Kris Feenstra on June 29, 2012 at 6:50pm

This isn't how we experience life though.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Kirschner on June 30, 2012 at 2:56pm

... it is sufficient by analysis to comprehend that there is no entity which could have effective volition, that an apparent act of volition when in accord with the inevitable can only be a vain gesture and, when in discord, the fluttering of a caged bird against the bars of his cage. Wei Wu Wei

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Permalink Reply by Mark Kirschner on June 30, 2012 at 3:59pm

"Non volitional living is glad living."

I forgot to add Wei Wu Wei's ending.

Sorry, if it sounds a bit preachy.

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