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Permalink Reply by Frink on December 16, 2008 at 12:40am

Pray for me all you want. When your prayers aren't answered, like all your other prayers, will you still believe a god is listening?

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Permalink Reply by Pat on December 21, 2008 at 11:05am

Nothing fails like prayer.

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Permalink Reply by Liam on December 21, 2008 at 1:51pm

What I like about christians when they talk about prayer is the self delusion. "My prayers were answered!!!"(probably prayed for the Sun to come up in the morning!) "So GOD is real!!!"

When the prayers are NOT answered (i.e. praying for something that doesn't just happen by itself anyway), well then the excuses come out...."It wasn't the right time!", "I wasn't sincere", "I was being selfish" It's quite funny in a sad sort of way.

I once had a discussion with a born again christian and his philosophy could be summarised as follows. When something good happens to him or in the world...GOD did it. When something bad happens, it was mankind's misuse of free will. It is amazing how unaware of the falliciousness (is that a word?) of his own thinking he is.

He also said that the poverty and suffering in the 3rd world was a test for Western Society. Nice one GOD!!

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Permalink Reply by Frink on December 23, 2008 at 11:47am

God's a real shithead, isn't he?

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Permalink Reply by Dinah on January 8, 2009 at 5:39am

yup true!

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Permalink Reply by davesnothome on December 21, 2008 at 6:23pm

I wonder how many Christians there would be without the threat of hell; I also wonder how many of our civil rights we would give up without the threat of terrorism.
"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer." -Anon

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Permalink Reply by Amanda on December 23, 2008 at 1:01am

lol I think I like you summer.

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Permalink Reply by Frink on December 23, 2008 at 12:06pm

That's one thing that really gets me--using the bible as proof of the bible. I couldn't tell you how many idiots I've talked to who are either unwilling or incapable of understanding this simple concept: the bible is proof that the writers of the bible exist, not proof that god exists.

I've even done an exercise with one of my Christian friends by writing down something ridiculous on a sheet of paper, such as "Sparkles the ineffable ghostcat created the universe by coughing up a holy, cosmic hairball within which we feel his cuddly, purring indifference."

When they protest by saying I just made it up and can't use it as evidence of my claim, I'll point out that someone wrote down the garbage in the bible that they use as evidence. They'll say it's divinely inspired, then huff and puff something like "who are you to question the inspiration?" I'll reply by asking them the same thing, at which point they'll say I have an agenda and, when I concede that they're right about my agenda, DING DING DING, they'll be arguing the same for the authors of the bible.

What it illustrates is that using the source of a claim as evidence for the same is not a terribly productive way of arguing their case.

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Permalink Reply by Derek on December 23, 2008 at 10:20am

Really? Hell is real? You've seen it? Because if you did, I'd have to ask, how? If you were a good Christian shouldn't you never know what hell is?

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Permalink Reply by Ric on December 23, 2008 at 10:34pm

BELIEVE you?...
Shiiiit man!, believing idiotic statements from closeted sociopaths is what got us in this mess in the first place!

I take that back, I can give this dude some credit because he AT LEAST claims that he will pray for you and wants to keep you AWAY from hell, as opposed to the many who get such a high thinking about the eternal torment of others.

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Permalink Reply by Liam on December 26, 2008 at 5:30am

"believe me" "to be honest" ( or "let's be honest") "in fairness". All phrases used by people who can't back up their claims.

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Permalink Reply by Dinah on January 8, 2009 at 5:40am

Amen. for SHIT =P

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