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Permalink Reply by Nelson on March 11, 2009 at 2:34am

lol. you knew that was gonna get you banned as you were typing it. that is some crazy shit.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Ferguson on March 11, 2009 at 4:14am

I was just browsing their website, and was reading the page where they tell us their theory on aliens; I asked them what their actual opinon was on the matter thinking that there no way they could believe that nonsense.. I was wrong LOL maybe they are a branch of Scientology?

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Permalink Reply by Nelson on March 11, 2009 at 4:26am

or maybe Mormons. Mormons theology teaches that god is a flesh and blood man living around a star named Kolob (some say Kolob is a planet and that god actually lives on it). sounds just as kooky. lol.
interestingly, many Mormons don't know this about their own religion's theology because the kooky shit isn't discussed with converts to the faith until they're well and truly into it, if ever.
just like Xenu in Scientology. most Scientologists have no idea about the B movie sci-fi crack addled bullshit aspect of their religion. lol.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Ferguson on March 11, 2009 at 4:38am

There are lot of videos on youtube of mormons true beliefs but alot of comments coming from longtime mormons telling that it isnt true.
Must be true though.. alot of the videos look rather old.

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Permalink Reply by Nelson on March 11, 2009 at 5:14am

that's the same thing you'll get when you confront a Scientologist about Zenu. it is true though. it's right there in the writings of their founding prophets, the writings that are still today the foundation of their theology:
* God used to be a man on another planet (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).

* "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s..." (Doctrin&Covenants 130:22).

* God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).

* "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).

* God the Father had a Father [another being, God's father, conceived God. goes towards flesh and blood description], (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105).

* God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price [The Book of Abraham], p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428).

a Mormon who denies this simply hasn't read the writings of the very men who founded the Mormon religion and were the elder prophets succeeding Joseph Smith, the men on who's words the religion is based.

not that Mormon's are unique in this of course. after all, more American Christians find it easier to name the ingredients in a McDonald's Big Mac or the names of the Brady Bunch kids than the Ten Commandments.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Ferguson on March 11, 2009 at 5:53pm

I dont understand why people choose to believe in this crap; seriously look at it; wtf lol

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Permalink Reply by Nelson on March 11, 2009 at 6:15pm

lol. you and me both brother.... you and me both....

Permalink Reply by jakegarland on March 11, 2009 at 8:09pm

*FINAL UPDATE (?)*

bibleprobe finally kicked me off, deleted my best, most irrefutable posts, and created a new post stating that the atheist "cancer" is gone. this new post is addressed to another religious member of the forum, whom i had engaged in a good amount of my discussions with. in this members response, she defends me. i'm honored and flabbergasted, here's her post:

"It should be a bit calmer now. I have to admit that I am re-examining one of my original understandings, but I am confident that I will reach a conclusion that I am comfortable with. I am now beginning to believe that there is a difference between a non-believer and a full blown atheist. I see jakegarland (only an example) as someone who was trying to debunk and examine his own theories as much as anything else, as opposed to the name calling, Bible bashing atheist. There must be others out there like him. However, if you allowed the debates to continue, you would be somewhat compelled to allow others to give their two cents, and before you know it this site would be infested with atheists. We would be fools to believe that we have all of the knowledge and can not learn a thing from those unlike us. That being said, (I have no idea who came up with this) I like the statement that, "If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out". I believe that we can learn very well from each other... without the stress!!"

while this statement is still quite misinformed for the most part, it's nice to see somebody who isn't completely close-minded to anything different. i may try and return under a different username (a resurrection!!) but i have a feeling they're going to be very guarded against new member ever since atheists started cropping up (gee i wonder how that happened :D)

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Permalink Reply by Scott Ferguson on March 11, 2009 at 11:31pm

I have an account you can use :-) accounts can only be created by contacting the admin; that way no more Atheist 'cancer' can get through LOL

They obviously don't have very good admin tools with their forum as they would see that I have 3 accounts 2 of which are deleted all with the same IP.

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Permalink Reply by Morgan-LynnGriggs Lamberth on August 13, 2009 at 8:34pm

jakegarland;
theology on-line Amazon Religion Forums &
Christian Forums
Skeptic Society
Philosophy Forum Philosophy Forums
BeliefNet

TheologyOn-Line
Theology Web
Christian Forums
Christian Debate
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Permalink Reply by Morgan-LynnGriggs Lamberth on August 13, 2009 at 9:57pm

jakegarlllland, strike out Christian Debate . It is Christian Board..
JREF
Think Atheism
RickLewis@Philosophynow.org
I love Philosophy

Emery@ losingmyreligion
Religious Education Forum
I just an hour ago joined the one you mentioned as rationalist griggsy.
Google skeptic griggsy, naturalist griggsy, rationalist griggsy to see that I get around the world on the WEB in different languages.
History Channel Religion Forums
I'm a new atheist- anti-theist- ignostic [ God means nothing. - Google the ignostic-Ockham.

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