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Permalink Reply by Freek on October 14, 2012 at 2:50am

I get your point, and often I have similar reasons not to write responses.
It is not even the intimidation against speaking my mind, but a lot of times I have the feeling that what I want to say is already said and pointing it out again just seems redundant.

Perhaps starting a private conversation with someone may be easier than posting your opinion for everyone to see and critisize.

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Permalink Reply by Grady Jean on October 14, 2012 at 10:43am

I often feel the same way. Either everything that I WOULD have said HAS been said, or my arguments and reasoning just seem to falter before some of the heavier hitters on the site. Doesn't mean it isn't fun to read, but my post count is astoundingly low for a forum site like this...

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on October 16, 2012 at 2:41am

@Freek and @Grady - It really doesn't matter if it has been said before, it is good for your psyche to get it off your chest - and it is also interesting to see how many people actually think the same - or not, as the case may be :) I do not post a comment if it is definitely out of my league, which is often - Science, computers, outer space stuff and many more.  There are some really clever people here and it is a joy to read from people who really know what they are talking about.

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Permalink Reply by Graham on October 14, 2012 at 3:50am

Perhaps one of the most useful Christian phrases might apply here: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone".

Atheism is all about freedom of thought and expression. Those that would try to stifle it because of intellectual snobbery give Atheism a bad name. It's the polar opposite of what atheism is all about.

Your thoughts, ideas and opinions are worth every bit as much as anyone's here. PLEASE don't be afraid to express them. It sounds like you've made a long and hard journey to get to where you are now, and has taken intelligence. To arrive at a place where you're afraid to celebrate and exercise your new freedom of thought and expression would be no arrival at all - just a shift from one repressive place (religion) to another.

Listening to others' conversations quietly in the background will pall after a while. Taking part will be SO much more satisfying, like a breath of fresh air. Please, please do join in.

Come on in - the water's lovely!

Graham

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Permalink Reply by Graham on October 14, 2012 at 4:15am

I should have also added: Don't be afraid of people disagreeing with any of your ideas. Diversity of opinion is the basis of great debating, and that's a fundamental aspect of this site. It may even help to develop your own thinking about issues - it has certainly helped mine. Personal attacks are always unwarranted, though, and have no place here.

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Permalink Reply by Roberta Glass on October 14, 2012 at 5:06am

Peggy,
I saw the link to your letter on Twitter, and it was so upsetting to me that I created this account just so I could respond! I think Graham said it perfectly, and would like to echo his thoughts. (I'd also like add that I thought your post was well-written, incidentally!)
Congrats, Peggy, on breaking free from religion. It may take a little time to feel comfortable expressing yourself to others through writing, but it will get easier. To whomever wrote the post that made you feel
so self-conscious, shame on them. Atheists come in all forms, from all backgrounds, with varying levels of education, different areas of expertise/skill, etc., and not everyone is Shakespeare! YOU ARE WELCOME HERE. I've spent very little time on internet forums, but from what I gather they can sometimes get quite ugly, as anonymity breeds bullying/extreme criticism. Just try to shake it off, and know that you are just as important as everyone else here! Hope you see this, I'm clueless as to how these things work. (I'll probably be made fun of for that, but whatever...ha!)

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Permalink Reply by Graham on October 14, 2012 at 7:09am

Thank you, Roberta - you are most kind.

Just to add further encouragement...

Many of the most famous intellects the world has known were, or are, dyslexic. (I'm not suggesting at all, Peggy, that you are dyslexic, merely recognising that dyslexia makes communicating in writing very difficult for many people, which may cause them to be reluctant to do so, as you are, however sound their ideas.) If they were criticised at all for it, it didn't hold them back, and they succeeded in making their voices heard very effectively. Their number includes:

• Winston Churchill
• Agatha Christie
• Albert Einstein
• Alexander Graham Bell
• Danny Glover
• George Burns
• Hans Christian Andersen
• Leonardo Da Vinci
• Thomas Edison
• Walt Disney
• Woodrow Wilson
• George Patton
• Richard Branson
• Nelson Rockefeller
• Jay Leno

- but there are many, many more.

I came to atheism relatively early in life, and didn't have the internal struggles with my religious upbringing to deal with. I'd love to share the experiences of someone who isn't much different to me in age, but whose experience was completely different.

Please share that experience. I'd learn a lot from it, I'm sure.

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Permalink Reply by Ed on October 14, 2012 at 8:51am

Peggy,

You're message's content is much more important that it's unnecessary grammatical correctness. We eagerly await your participation and WELCOME you to the collective!

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Permalink Reply by Donald S. Chase on October 14, 2012 at 9:18am

In todays society, appearance is very important. If you walk about with your britches hanging low and your drawers showing, you impart a certain character. If that is your "bag", then fine. But if your problem is narrow hips, get suspenders. I keep suspenders at hand in the form of a dictionary.

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Permalink Reply by peggy on October 14, 2012 at 2:11pm

Don't judge a book by its cover!

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Permalink Reply by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on October 16, 2012 at 2:44am

@Peggy - if that were the case, I would be doomed :)

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on October 16, 2012 at 3:02am

Never! Never! Never! Never! Never! Never! Never! Never! Never! Never!

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