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Permalink Reply by Misty: Baytheist Living! on July 4, 2009 at 1:15pm

I've always been a fan of Wilde's quote "The right to swing your fist ends where another man's nose begins."
The golden rule can be subjective. What one person would like done unto them can be abhorrent to another.

Here is a question for moral angst: Should it be legal to have cyber/virtual/roleplaying/video games with pedophilia? Obviously the images are only that..images.. created electronically with CG graphics, no human models. The abuse of a child is a horrible crime, but if someone is acting out his or her fantasies with no party being harmed, is there anything morally wrong? Legally wrong?

Now apply the same to murder and violence. I go online and blow up people all the time on Halo 3. That's considered good fun.

Just food for thought.

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Permalink Reply by Atheist Exile on July 4, 2009 at 8:55pm

Hi Misty,

Yes, I get your point. I wrote with the assumption here that the human condition is not shared by everybody. That's why I said "under normal circumstances" and mentioned autistism, as well as feral children (raised by jungle apes). There's growing evidence that there are neurological anomalies behind various "deviant" behaviors.

So, if you could remove those with neurological anomalies, would the "normal" individuals remaining share a common experience of morality? Not in all matters -- but I think it would be normal to expect that others know better (if not DO better) than to cause unnecessary harm.

Please also note that I was speaking of KNOWING right from wrong . . . not DOING right instead of wrong. We all venture into wrong territory on occasion despite knowing we're rejecting what we know is right.

As for your examples, on the face of it, they appear to cause no harm to anybody. But if you extend empathy to the victims of pedophilia or war, wouldn't you then recognize their pain at the mere thought of making a game out of the sickness and violence that victimized them?

Don't get me wrong . . . I have no desire to be a goodie-two-shoes or holier-than-thou. I'm just arguing that the Golden Rule (cause no unnecessary harm) CAN be applied to most situations and is an excellent guide to live by. But an angel's life is a little too boring for me. The devil in me likes to spice things up once in a while. That's why it's the Golden Rule . . . not the Golden Law.

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