My African grey has picked up on one of my friends bad words , such as calling people a C@nt , and she also telss you to F&ck off ect, I think I need to teach her a few more words so nextime the religous family comes to visit she can realy piss them off!
First of all you can very easily have a full grasp of the english language without ever picking up a bible. I'm not sure what the bases of that claim is on, but it simply isn't true.
What you need to understand here is the concept of "evolution of language". When I say "oh god" or whatever the case may be when I'm excited for whatever reason. Would it surprise you to know that I"m actually not praising a god for "having sex" or whatever. Its an expression of awe, it has no other deep meaning for me.
This topic is very old to me, I've heard it all before. Its kind of like when you get a foreigner imegrating to a different country, they pick up the new lingo then start using it. For example if an English person moves to American and starts using all the American slang usage, such as cell phone (instead of mobile phone), or candy (instead of sweets) etc. Does that make them less English? No, they just words to describe something it doesn't change the bases of who they are.
And an atheist using religious lingo amongst a culture of a majority of religious people, doesn't make him or her less atheist. They are just phrase to express an expression of awe. I could easily say "oh my gosh" or something of that sort if I wanted to, but I don't see the point.
And if your point was that these "phrases" are of the English language. They are just slang to me.
I appreciate your point. Literal meaning and actual meaning are not the same.
You say that "the topic is very old to you." I agree it is old. I've had talks around this topic for 30 years. I posted this originall in 2009 and 37 months later (3.083 years) you are compelled to make a comment. Maybe it's like free will versus determinism, it's a topic that will never die.
I think I would like to stop using religious language when I swear, but I find that it feels too silly to say "Dawkins!" or "Darwin!" or whatever. I prefer to let loose with a "Oh my fucking god!" every once in a while (or a lot, really), despite the lack of belief in said god. What could I say that would be sufficiently secular but also satisfying?
How about: "Oh your fucking god!" ?
Perfect. Thank you.
Offend everyone, god damnit, jesus christ, i swear to Buddah, Appolonius Christ! etc.
Lol JK that may imply that I actually believe those things. I love Carlin, he is my favorite comic. I like the suggestions you make at the end. When I am interacting with someone in person (someone I know) I usually swear quite a lot. I just stick to the 7 dirty words shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, mother fucker, and tits :)
When interacting formally online, or through other writing I avoid it all together xP
How should atheists swear? Like a sailor of course! Honestly, I think you are all over-thinking this...o_O
lol probably. xP but if we didn't would we be Atheists?