I have several friends on Facebook who are devout Christians and will occasionally post statuses reflecting such. This one was posted not too long ago, copied verbatim:
I am proud of Gov. Perry in Texas standing up for prayer for our American Leadership. A seven hour praying crowd of 30,000! Wonder what this country would be like if all of the State leaders held prayer like that?
I know what's going to be discussed in regards to this, but I can't help but ask what your opinions are. I firmly believe in separation of church and state, but how can that happen when prayer rallies are being held by politicians?
Servants are supposed to serve their masters, not insist on their rights. Constitutional rights are not the same as constitutional obligations. They don't have to exercise them and they should not for sake of decency. It makes them look like poor jesters. In addition, they are not necessary. There's lots of people in green and blue which get by without them just fine - they even have free health care!
As for the emergency services they are of course required. However, the bill should be footed by the organizer and not the public, for example by charging an entrance fee. Otherwise they can congregate at their own risk if they are irresponsible enough to not pay the associated costs. Or the Church could be financed by an elected tax - a word which always sits well with the fundies. ;)
In any event, the right to freedom of assembly stops at the right for public safety.
Given a median personal income of around $35.000/year, or approx $15 per hour, the prayer meeting actually cost the state of Texas 30k*$15*7h = $3.15m. Assuming all state leaders did such a thing with similar results, it would cost (30k/25m)*307m*$15*7h = $38.7m.
Please fight harder against such waste...
Ultimately I wish my country to have a clear separation of church and state but today I'm so glad that it does not have that yet because the very reason my country is the worlds least religious western democracy is ironically because we do not have this separation.
We have a moderate Lutheran Christian state church and having that has basically destroyed any need for the church to actively go spread its scripture or herd its flock. This way religion is just not an issue in our daily environment. The state church takes care of birth registration, confirmation, weddings and death.. that's it! The state church almost never interferes with any social, political, educational, or economic matters.
In short, the lack of separation of church and state basically sterilised the state church in Denmark.
Of course, in the future we will eventually have separation of state and church - but only when we are ready and wise enough so things won't devolve back to religious nonsense.
Yes - it is truly sad. The governor should start performing his job to help the country instead of letting god take care of things.
It reminds me of the movie Religulous where Bill Maher interviews a senator about believing in talking snakes, evolution etc. and the senator casually says "you don't have to pass an IQ test to be in the senate though ha ha" ... WELL YOU SURE AS HELL SHOULD!
You might want to test Pia Kjærsgaard while you'r at it... ;)
Actually she is one of the most practical and reasonable politicians around - we can thank her for making stricter immigration laws so our country does not overflow with immigrants that we can not afford to help and integrate successfully. Sweden and other Nordic countries now regret not having done the same and thus they have much more severe immigration issues today. Go figure.
Weeeeeelll.. I find her to be an uneducated, unintellectual, neo-con loudmouth who is only pointing at problems without finding good solutions and reaffirming underlying Danish xenophobia. A practical and reasonable approach would be to invite everyone who had a strong higher education to Denmark if they had a job instead of making it virtually impossible for Danish firms to recruit non-Schengen citizens. I'm not saying open borders to everyone is a good idea - yet - but it should be the general direction. Also the knee-jerk reaction to say no to anything from Brussels seems infantile.
(For Americans, think Ann Coulter.)
Sure she is not perfect but on important immigration matters she has done well and kept our government on our toes. Yes, it is a regrettable side effect that some highly educated people are not easily admitted but I'm sure this is a temporary situation and that we will manage without for now. Recent news regarding the increased Danish border control introduced by her party is nothing but hysteria - we still have a lot less border control officers than eg. Sweden - we simply increased patrols to fence off thieves from eastern Europe. International news really knows how to misinterpret things.
I can read Danish just fine. :)
Just have a test for anyone who wants to get in: A six pack of beer, a pack of bacon, a smørrebrød, a pastry, and ritual burning of the Swedish flag while chasing it all down with 'en lille en'. ;)
But in seriousness, Denmark is pretty much only accepting asylum seekers and quota refugees - people who don't want to come and don't integrate well - and leaving out economic immigrants which usually fit right in and provide a boost to the economy.
It is because we are such a sentimental people - we want to help the people that really needs it the most. If we start allowing all highly educated people in there will be all sort of accusations of discrimination and elitism... it is not an easy balance to keep. One day it will change in favour of highly educated I'm sure but not right now just before an election.
Whole separate issue Stephen. I agree, it is sad and sick. Also lazy, cowardly, and deceptive.