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Permalink Reply by Reggie on March 30, 2011 at 10:22pm

I beg to differ on the "responsibilities" portion.  I don't know of a single corporation serving a prison sentence.

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Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on March 30, 2011 at 10:27pm

And laaawwwd knows they oughta!

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on March 31, 2011 at 8:51am

Because corporations are not physical beings. However, just like a natural persons, corporations can be sued, face criminal charges, stand trial, and pretty much anything else. At the moment, I cannot think of what a natural person can do which a corporation cannot do in some form or another (though I'm sure there must be something).

A corporations "prison sentence" is bankruptcy, which is actually a death sentence (the legal persona ceases to exist). Occationally, the natural persons who conduct crimes through a corporation are also sent to prison ("Piercing the corporate veil"). 

In fact, the regulation of corporations are much stricter than that of natural persons. If you compare the amount of laws regulating your life vs what regulates a corporation's life, the latter stack of books would dwarf the former's.

 

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Permalink Reply by Reggie on March 31, 2011 at 9:51pm

A corporations "prison sentence" is bankruptcy, which is actually a death sentence (the legal persona ceases to exist).

 

A real person can suffer both bankruptcy and prison.  Besides, bankruptcy is something a corporation files for, not something that is forced on it as punishment in a criminal case.  And it is most definitely NOT a death sentence.  No!  It is actually a new lease on life!  It is protection from creditors and others that seek restitution!  

 

In extreme and rare cases, dissolution of a corporation would be a form of punishment.  Almost invariably corporations are merely fined monetarily.  

 

Occationally, the natural persons who conduct crimes through a corporation are also sent to prison ("Piercing the corporate veil").

 

Piercing the corporate veil refers to doctrine in civil corporate law where shareholders can be held financially liable.  This is to prevent shareholders from pulling money out of the corporation and hiding it in private accounts in order to defraud.  There is no such thing as a corporate veil in criminal cases, as far as I am aware.

 

If you compare the amount of laws regulating your life vs what regulates a corporation's life, the latter stack of books would dwarf the former's.

 

What would compel you make a claim such as this?  Have you actually done the comparison?  And in which country?  Or is it international law?  Civil laws?  Criminal laws?  All laws?  And if so, how are you quantifying a "law"?  Do you count each statute as a "law"?  Each restriction?  Your statement is so vague that it is practically meaningless. 

 

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Permalink Reply by Kenneth Montville D.D. on March 30, 2011 at 4:29pm

In 2000 I voted for Nader because I was an idealist. In 2004 I voted for Kerry because I was a pragmatist. In 2008 I didn't vote because I was disgusted with the farce that is our political system.

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Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on March 30, 2011 at 9:33pm

As I recently heard it described - the pan dimensional clusterf*ck that is our body politic.

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Permalink Reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on March 30, 2011 at 6:12pm

Partisan Politics SUCK! I'm in the ME party... population: me

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Permalink Reply by James on March 30, 2011 at 7:47pm

I'm registered as an unaffiliated voter and always vote based on the issues.

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Permalink Reply by Jacob LeMaster on March 30, 2011 at 9:08pm

I claim to be Adaptive-Progressive as my personal politics.. it means exactly what it says.. But I'm registered as a democrat to vote in primaries..

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Permalink Reply by scLovely on March 30, 2011 at 10:05pm

I disagree with both sides, so I guess that makes me a "no party" as well.

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Permalink Reply by Ron V on March 30, 2011 at 10:20pm

I am in the "no party" group as well.  I do like a combination of the Libertarian and Green Parties' platforms, though.

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Permalink Reply by Dustin on March 30, 2011 at 10:25pm

If there was an 'honest politician' category I would sign up for that!  

 

Also , anyone who says no party , no voice ... I think that 'if party then half a voice' considering there are 2 major parties.  Not perfect logic but I'll go with it :P  

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