A few hours ago I went over to my uncles house and his mother-in-law was there making some tamales (we're Mexican). My other uncle was there and his 5 month old baby girl was there with him. I don't see my new baby cousin much so I thought I'd spend a few minutes playing with her. I played with her and before I left my uncle's mother-in-law, with a serious face, told me to draw a cross on my baby cousin's forehead with my own saliva because I could "harm" her and won't let her sleep. I kind of looked at the lady like, "I'm sorry did you just seriously say that to me?" I am not kidding, she was being completely serious. I just started slowly walking off and she stopped me and told me to do it. OF COURSE I refused and told her I don't believe in her stupid ideas and she just looked at me in disbelief. I have to deal with a super religious aunt who won't leave me alone and to this day I don't know how to tell her I'm an Atheist but now I also have to deal with this crazy lady?!
If you were me, what would have done? What would you have said to her? I'm still surprised she seriously sad that to me.
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Permalink Reply by Simon Paynton on November 20, 2012 at 2:41am James - it sounds like she was properly nuts? Or in love with you? Or both?
Permalink Reply by James Cox on November 20, 2012 at 3:06am If she wanted to have children with Satan, she could have asked, and left her number!
Funny in contrast. There was a moral/ethical inventory questioneer It took a few years ago, sadly I don't remember what it was called. I took the test which seemed to take about about an hour on the web. It keyed me out to be between Nelson Mandella and the Dali Lama. Sadly, I can't seem to identify the moment between my Satan and Dali Lama transition. Maybe it was my second divorce? LOL
Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on November 20, 2012 at 9:26am Mommie-Daddy!
Permalink Reply by James Cox on November 21, 2012 at 3:41am Now I and my present dearest wife live on property that could host a few hundred folks for pagan festivals, with hardly a notice from neighbors.
I found it odd once that the Unitarians have/had allowed pagan groups in their fellowships.
Now we tend our garden, watch for the occasional cougar sighting, and generally try to have a nice day, without too much drama. So far, no 'Rosemary's Baby' moments or calling the quarters. We are both good with this. My youthful explorations along the fringe, I think have ended, except for the occasional touches of crazy that come our way.
Permalink Reply by Kari Huizar on November 20, 2012 at 9:28am Oh wow hahaha.
Permalink Reply by Simon Paynton on November 20, 2012 at 3:12am
Permalink Reply by Ed on November 20, 2012 at 9:48am Kari,
I prefer smiley faces to x's. It would of been cute using lipstick or something harmless to paint a smiley face on your cousin. :^ )
Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on November 20, 2012 at 10:06am I realize the topic of this discussion is witchcraft, but it's more specifically about Mexican witchcraft, so I don't think it would be too far off-topic to share an interesting story about the Maya, whose empire extended from El Salvador to Central Mexico, and lasted from about 250 AD, through the Spanish conquest. Bear in mind, that the Maya had the most sophisticated system of writing in the western hemisphere, and used it to chronicle their culture and history.
Once upon a time, the Mayans had a god, Hunab-Ku. Hunab Ku was described as, “the supreme god.” In fact, the very name, Hunab-Ku, translates as “Sole God” or “Only God.” The name appears in the 16th century Diccionario de Motul, where “Hunab-ku” is identified as “...the only living and true god, also the greatest of the gods of the people of Yucatan." He had no form because they said that he could not be represented as he was incorporeal.
There was only one teensy little problem - the Maya never heard of him.
His mention in the Diccionario de Motul in the 16th century - after the invasion of the "one-god" Spanish - was the earliest mention of him anywhere. Though he also received a write-up in the Book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel, written after the Spanish Conquest, he is unknown in any pre-Conquest inscriptions in Maya writing.
Hunab-Ku was closely associated with an indigenous creator god, Itzamna, and the fact that the deity is described only in a few late sources, heavily influenced by Christianity, has caused some scholars to suspect that the deity was not an actual Mayan deity but was rather invented by Franciscan friars to ease the transition from the traditional polytheist Mayan religion to strict Christian monotheism.
Why, they wouldn't do that, would they? To those simple, trusting people? Why that would be like, like, telling Sun worshipers who celebrated the Winter Solstice's beginning of the return of the sun, that the real reason for the season was the birth of their god's kid!![]()
Oh wait - they did that too, didn't they?
Permalink Reply by Dale Headley on November 20, 2012 at 3:46pm
Permalink Reply by Marc on November 20, 2012 at 4:20pm These rituals sound very similar to the Malocchio (Evil Eye) traditions of Sicily. The Devil's Horn necklace (or Corno) that you see people wear and make fun of on the Sopranos and other stereotypical displays is supposed to ward off the evil spirits.
It is a multipurpose tool. You could love somebody too much (as in your cousin), hate somebody too much, want to see them dead, all could be solved with a bowl of water and some olive oil dripped off my grandmother's finger into the bowl (a procedure that only women could know and they could only be taught on christmas eve). She can then tell by reading the droplets and pools of oil and whether they 'broke' whatever that meant whether I had it a little, or bad. The oil always looked the same to me, be she had theories about rings around them, shadows, double shadows. The solution was always the same: wash my face and go lie down for a few minutes.
Kind of like the Italian food therapy, having a bad day? Eat something, Having a great day? Eat something, Feeling tired? Eat something, you are yawning because you are hungary. It was feed a cold, feed a fever.
Permalink Reply by RobertPiano on November 21, 2012 at 5:14am Manga, manga!
Permalink Reply by RobertPiano on November 21, 2012 at 8:57am It's been three hours..
Manga, manga!
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