Courtesty of Tina Springer and Max Powers who researched this subject tirelessly. This very small list is but a mere fraction of the sources that we've discovered, and is intended for those who are either new to this subject or those who at least have the common sense to see that christianity is not original but just couldn't find the damning evidence to verify it. 



The egyptians deified the sun as a trinity of gods -- Osiris, the Father, Horus, the Son, and Ra, the Highest Sun -- each corresponding to at least one of the sun's 3 key positions throughout the day. Osiris represented the *setting* sun, and is reborn as horus, the *rising* sun. Ra, who alone represented the *mid-day* sun completes the trinity as "RaHorakty" (translates to "Ra who is Horus of the Two Horizons") the conflation of all three gods and positions of the sun. "Horakty", meaning horus of the two horizons indicate that the egyptians regarded the son as also being the father. This is why throughout the pyramid texts and book of the dead Horus and Osiris are frequently interchangeable.



Pyramid Texts Utterance 77
52a. Oil Oil arise open thou; (thou) who art on the forehead of Horus, arise, open thou.
52b. Thou who art on the forehead of Horus, put thyself on the forehead of this N. (pharoah)
52.c Make him sweet with thyself (PERFUMED OIL); glorify him with thyself

Utterance 576
1505.a "N is your seed, Osiris, the pointed
In his name of "Horus of the great green"; "Horus of the chief of spirits".
1511a. "N ANOINTS himself with the best ointment'



Pyramid Texts Utterance 667
1941b "Oh Horus, this hour of the morning, of this ---THIRD DAY ----, is come, when thou surely passet on to heaven, together with the stars, the imperishable star"

Utterance 556
1382f "this hour of the ---THIRD DAY--- comes, where the father Osiris will be reborn as horus, at the place where the gods are born..."

According to the Ikhernofret Stela (2000 BC) translated by Richard H. Wilkinson, Osiris' Death and Resurrection was celebrated in a 5 day festival known as the "Passion Plays". He is entombed on the 2nd day, and remains so until the 4th day (3 DAYS). Afterwards, on the 5th day, he is reborn AT DAWN. This is why Horus represented the sun's *rising* position, whereas Osiris represented the sun's *setting* position; Horus is symbolic of Osiris' resurrection/rebirth.



The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts (Translated by R.O Faulkner)

"You are this LONE STAR that comes forth from the EAST of the sky, and who will surrender himself to Horus of the Netherworld..."



The Second Story of Khamuas (Griffith, F. LI, Stories of the High Priests of Memphis; The Sethon of Herodotus and the Demotic Tales of Khamuas)

"Si-Osiris (revealed to be Horus, son of Paneche). "Numerous are the marvels that he shall do in Egypt.."

"...I would cast my magic up to Egypt that I might cause the peope of Egypt to pass three days and nights without seeing light except kiki"

"I will not remove my spell, until you have sworn an oath to me not to return up to Egypt."

..."Now when the boy Si-Osiris (son of Osiris) had attained -- 12 YEARS -- it came to pass that there was no [good scribe or learned man] that rivalled him in reading and writing that compels."



In two official translations of the Pyramid Texts Horus is said to have walked on water or is referred to as "LAKE STRIDER"

The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts, James P. Allen 118, 154

The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts, R. O. Faulkner Pg 192



The Book of Gates
Chapter 3
The Gate of Saa-Set
The Second Division of Tuat

Note: Ra was a solar deity representing the sun's *mid-day* position while Horus represented the sun's *rising* position. By the time of the Book of Gates, Ra had already merged with Horus to represent both positions. In the texts Ra is traversing the underworld in a boat, and in the pyramid texts, it states very clearly that when Horus enters the boat he becomes Ra.

The Book of Gates states: "The 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who are at peace...They who praised Ra/Horus upon Earth...They who spoke Truth upon Earth (On Ra/Horus' behalf)..."They who UTTERED WORDS OF POWER (exorcism) against Apep, the serpent...and have vanquished Apep for me"

jesus' 12 followers are referred to as "apostles". An apostle is one sent forth as a messenger; one SPREADING TRUTH. According to Matthew 10:1, jesus' apostles also exorcised demonic spirits in his name.


In Chapter 5 of the Book of Gates, Horus is mentioned as having ANOTHER group of 12 in his service, to who he tells "Live delicatley on the BREAD of HU, and drink ye the Ale of Maat". This ale is later referred to as the "Tchesert Drink" which translates to "Divine Drink".

This concept is reworked in the NT when jesus, at the Eucharist, offers the 12 apostles his body in the form of BREAD and his divine blood in the form of WINE.



Book of Gates
Chapter 5
The Gate of Tchetbi
Fourth Division of Tuat

Note: Again, in the Book of Gates Ra is Ra-Horakty (Ra who is Horus of the two Horizons: the sun traveling from one horizon to the other.)

The 12 double headed/jackal headed gods say unto Ra/Horus: -- " Immerse thyself, O Ra, in the holy lake wherein the lord of the gods immersed himself, whereunto the souls of the dead approach not; this is what thou thyself hast commanded. O KHUTI... Their food consisteth of -----BREAD...their vessels are filled with WINE-----



1. "In Egypt the epiteths dd.t, rnn.t and hwn.t, 'girl; young woman; VIRGIN', are applied to many goddesses -- e.g Hathor and ISIS WHO HAD NOT HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE"
- Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible by Karel van der Toorn PhD, Bob Becking PhD, Pieter W. van der Horst PhD, Erik Hornung PhD, Hans Dieter Betz PhD, Andre Caquot PhD, Jonas C Greenfield PhD, Michael E Stone PhD, Manfred Weipert PhD

2. In a text in the Abydos Temple of Seti 1, Isis herself declares: "I am the great VIRGIN"

3. Among the glyphs of Denderah, is the depiction of the *non-physiscal* intercourse between Isis and Osiris. The glyphs show Isis sending out her Bah, Sothis (a hawk), the hawk being inseminated on Osiris' phallus, and then returning back to Isis. Because the sex between Isis and Osiris was non-physical, her virginity wasn't compromised.


The inseminated bird now flies back to Isis

4. It is a well known fact that the greek religion is but a mirror of the egyptian religion e.g Dionysis is actually Osiris, Typhon is actually Set, Hermes is actually Thoth, etc. With that said, the glyph for Virgo is a Virgin holding WHEAT (Bread) and CORN (Spica) as Virgo is the constellation of HARVEST, and this is how the Egyptians depicted Isis:

"Lady of GREEN CROPS, Lady of BREAD, Lady of Abundance..." -- Egyptian Book of the Dead

"It is Sirius (Isis) the beloved daughter, who provides the YEARLY SUSTENANCE (flooding of the Nle for crops) for you in her name of "Year" -- Pyramid Texts

"Sirius (Isis) opener of the Year's flood"

All of the above depictions of Isis refer to Harvest, which is exactly why the Greeks designated their constellation of harvest a VIRGIN.


"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is everyone that hangeth on a TREE" (Gal 3:13)

"Jesus bore our sins in his own body on the TREE, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto rightieousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." (1 Peter 2:24)

"The god of our father raised up, who ye slew and hanged on a TREE." (Acts 5:30)

"And we are witnesses of all the things which jesus did both in the land of the jews, and in Jerusalem; who ye slew and hanged on a TREE" (Acts 10:39)

"And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took jesus down from the TREE and laid him in a sepulchre." (Acts 13:29)







Note: Crucifixion, before it had become exclusive to christian context, meant a display or spectacle on a cross, pole, or tree either by execution or symbolic imagery See here:


The relief from the Egyptian Book of the Dead shows Horus spectacled in cruciform (arms outstretched) on the combination of the Ankh Cross and Djed Pillar/TREE TRUNK containing his dead body...osiris' body. The two sisters, Isis-Meri and Nephtys-Meri are at the feet of the figure, just as the two sister Marys in john 19:25. The Ankh Cross represents the Eternal Life that Horus/Osiris achieves through death.
In numerous biblical verses, jesus is said to have died on a tree while tradition holds that it happened on a CROSS. This tree/cross discrepancy, is not really a discrepancy, but rather an accomodation of both the DJED and ANKH, forming the combination in jesus' myth.



Revelations 22:16
"I, jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright ---MORNING STAR--

Egyptian Book of the Dead Chapter 109 "I know the souls of the easterners, they are Horakhty (horus of the horizons), the sun calf, and the ---MORNING STAR--

Journal of Near Eastern Studies Ro Faulkner Pyramid Texts "O Morning Star, Horus of the Dlet, divine falcon, widwid-bird whom the sky bore..."



(John Gardener Wilkinson, Manner and Customs of the Ancient Egyptians, III)
Sokar, Osiris, and Ptah -- 3 kings -- approaching baby Horus in a manger at the Winter Solstice.



Like christians, the ancient egyptians went by the belief that the son-of-god was the "way" to immortality or eternal life. The ankh cross, which was the cardinal religious symbol in egypt, just as it is in christianity, represented the eternal life that Horus achieved for himself and his followers.

Death and salvation in ancient Egypt - Page 38 Jan Assmann
"Horus, the son, was responsible for the aspect of redemption from death."
On Page 58
"I am one of you, Salvation from Death through inclusion."

Page 127

"The deceased owes his redemption from death to the grace of the god (Osiris) who recognises him as his peer and receives him into his kingdom”
Page 115
"What was important was for Osiris to go to the Netherworld and remain there. Only thus in the realm of death, could he become the center of a sphere of eternal life that held out the promise of salvation from the realm of death and the promise of eternal life for every deceased person who followed him. Salvation and Eternal life are Christian concepts, and we might think that the Egyptian myth can all too easily be viewed through the lens of Christian tradition. Quite the contrary, in my opinion, Christian myth is itself thoroughly stamped by Egyptian Tradition, by the myth of Isis and Osiris, which from the very beginning had to do with salvation and eternal life."


In short, Zeitgeist was more than 100 percent correct -- there's even more parallels between these religions than shown in zeitgeist -- and Richard Carrier and Robert Price can both go f*&^ themselves.

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You give me way to much credit here Horus!


lol Richard Carrier and Robert Price can both go fuck themselves!


Im surprised that within the atheist community, this information is not that big a deal. : (

Cool article! I'm sure I can find some use for this information, some way or another.

As you can see in the following, Horus is also sinless:



"O Ra; your son Horus has been stung who is without sin"



I live by truth, in which I exist, I am
who is in hearts, he which is
in the middle of what is in the
body, I live by saying what is in my heart, and it shall not
be taken away,
my heart is mine, and none shall be agressive against it, no terror shall
subdue me. I take it that I may be in the body of my father geb and my
mother Nut, for I have
committed no sin against the gods
and nothing
shall be deducted in that respect from
my vindication.


400BC Nag Hammadi Texts:

Isis states: I am the first and the last

I am the venerated and the despised one

I am the prostitute and the saint. I am the bride and the ****VIRGIN***.

I am the mother and the daughter, I am my mother’s arms,

I am the sterile one, yet my children are numerous,

I am the married woman and the unmarried one,

I am She who gives birth and She who has never given birth,

I am the consolation for the pains of childbirth.

I am the bride and the groom, And it was my man who nurtured my fertility,

I am my father’s Mother, I am my husband’s sister. And he is my rejected son.

Respect me always, As I am the Scandalous and the Magnificent one.


Similarly many Eastern religions and variations of Norse religions maintain a structure similar to the story of Christ. Leading one to believe that there have been representations of one religion being exchanged throughout different sections of the globe. Since Egyptian Hieroglyphics predate the coming of Abraham the father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam it is safe to assume that images of Christ were set in place long before the conception of the Old Testament  

So interesting!

This reminds me of this video the (Christ Before Christ).. It's not a coincidence here! It's so clear that the pagan figures were transformed into different names!

Zeitgeist has been covered here a few times. Have a look at this from Nelson.

Sorry, but I refuse to take W. Ward Gasque's word for it, and I am surprised that Nelson did considering that Gasque is president of Theological Studies and also considering that Ward didn't name the 20 Egyptologists in his article, only what they supposedly said.  So how can ANYONE verify that he is telling the truth?


Also, in Gasques article, he discounts Kuhns work by claiming he was a high school teacher which is an understatement because Kuhn had a Phd and he claimed Kuhn was a proponent of theosophy.


Can anyone say FALLACY?

If we were to go by this ideology we should just take Christians word for it that Jesus was the son of God because the theologians tell us so! 


Very impressive! Odin also was tied to a tree for seven days, and pierced with a spear - he allowed this to be done to him, as somehow, that was a means to acquiring some magical secrets that he needed to learn.

I shall certainly bookmark your page and refer back to it occasionally.

Quite likely the same way you would disprove fuzzy pink unicorns --

Let's say next year read a book with a similar story to that of harry potter. Almost identical characters, plot etc. Then 5 years later you read another book, which again sounds very similar to harry potter. After that you come across yet another book, which yet again has a plot very similar to that of harry potter.

Now. Would you think that since all these books have so much in common, that magic must be real.. or would you conclude someone plagiarized to make profit?

The other catch is that even if it were like you say, why would it lend credibility to the bible? Why not to ancient egyptian pergaments? How do you know you shouldn't be praying to horus instead of christ?

Humanity made thousands and thousands of gods Jessica, saying one is real and the others aren't is just wishful cherry picking.

It has long been suggested that Jesus was not the only person in that area around that time to have been claimed to have been born of a virgin, had twelve apostles, and performed a bunch of miracles.  Appolonius of Tyana's bio is almost precisely the same.

It's far more likely that, as Christ's earlier followers began to embellish their stories, and their successors continued doing so, they simply added the virgin birth, etc., to make the story seem more like the story of a miracle worker.  This sort of story was downright common back then; miracle workers were considered a rarity but by no means non-existent. Everyone had heard of plenty of them.

Try an exercise.  Try to momentarily forget everything you've heard about Christ's birth.  Then read the account of the nativity in Matthew.  Take notes, or do whatever you do to fix details into your head.  But be careful NOT to add anything you "know" should be part of the story that isn't actually in Matthew.

Then do the same with Luke.  You will notice the two stories are very, very different!  One (Matthew) strongly implies that Jesus' parents actually lived in Bethlehem before he was born (there are references to their house), the other tells the story of staying in the manger.  One tells the story of the flight to Egypt followed by returning and deciding to go to Galilee instead (being safely outside of Herod Archelaus' kingdom).  The standard Christmas Tale is a melding of two very different tales, an attempt to reconcile them.  They don't quite flatly contradict each other--though they come very close to doing so--but each version leaves out important things the other one mentions.

My personal theory is that there was indeed a perfectly ordinary, mortal preacher from Galilee named Jesus (an Anglicization of Yeshua) who eventually got executed in Jerusalem, most likely for causing a ruckus of some sort on the grounds of the temple.  But I think he was born in Galilee and the nativity tales independently written and added later by people who realized, "Oh shit, according to our traditions, the Messiah is supposed to come from Bethlehem!  We'd better figure out some way of making it look like he did!"

I lend more credence to the stories that are in common between the gospels (with the caveat that such a thing often simply means that both Matthew and Luke's authors cribbed from the gospel of Mark) than the ones that appear in only one place.  And I lend no credence whatsoever to tales of miracles--which are violations of physical law--no matter how often they are repeated.


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