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Permalink Reply by Nina van der Roos on July 10, 2011 at 5:49am

Oh Ye Gods ! Not this asinine question again !

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Permalink Reply by Eddie Wetzler on July 10, 2011 at 8:15pm

My sentiments exactly!

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Permalink Reply by Kairan Nierde on July 11, 2011 at 12:29am

I know.  But, everyone comes to the website with different backgrounds...

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Permalink Reply by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on July 10, 2011 at 6:45am

This and then check out this

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on July 10, 2011 at 7:27am

Actually very well thought out answers from what appears to be random people at the street. And the other one was absolutely hilarious. :)

As for when people "choose" their final sexual orientation, I'd hazard a guess at around the onset of puberty, 10-12 years or so, when the hormones start really kicking in.

 

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on July 10, 2011 at 7:56am

"This fact in itself makes this a homophobic forum."

No, this makes it a liberal/progressive forum where difficult subjects can be raised and discussed with people sharing their knowledge and attaining new information.

If you are uncomfortable with the topic you might have a choice to answer or not, depending if we look at it from a biological or psychological standpoint. ;)

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on July 10, 2011 at 10:10am

Democratic forum? It's the silliest thing I've ever heard!

The intended discussion is not whether or not homosexuality is right or wrong, but rather an attempt at gaining insight into why it occurs. If it was a homophobic forum we would be discussing how bad it is, and no one has made any such claim (yet).

By your "democratic" rules we should not address homosexuality because it's homophobic or Islam because it's racist.

I guess I should post a new question to ensure no sensibilities can get bruised: The weather here is lovely today, how is the weather where you are?

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Permalink Reply by Eddie Wetzler on July 10, 2011 at 9:02pm

Perhaps you don't quite understand that a forum discussing the reason for one's existence might possibly bruise the discuss-ee's sensibilities. As one of the gays who's reason for being this discussion is trying to determine, I find the whole thing exasperating.

There was never a choice involved for me, I was gay before sexuality was even a concept to be considered. As for psychological/environmental factors that supposedly turned me gay, what could they possibly be? There's no advantage or "benefit" to being gay, and very few, if any, cultures/societies that don't treat gays with scorn, so why would factors that "turn" people gay exist?

I can certainly understand the curiosity from a scientific point of view, but beyond that I'm baffled as to what the layperson's interest is. There's a certain insolence in even bringing up the topic for discussion. I think there's more merit to discussing why straight people "are the way they are," and the complete lack of benefit so many of them bring to the world.

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Permalink Reply by Kairan Nierde on July 11, 2011 at 12:53am

Beautiful:  "Perhaps you don't quite understand that a forum discussing the reason for one's existence might possibly bruise the discuss-ee's sensibilities."

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on July 11, 2011 at 2:10am

I can understand why it could, but I don't really see why it should. I am also of the belief that discussing sensitive topics is the only way to defuse them, and gays (like straight) should have no issue in discussing their personal sexuality. I do not like it when people moralize with emotions about sexuality, it should be treated amorally with reason.

I am open for that debate too, but there's much less mystery in heterosexuality to me. If you'd like to ask me a question regarding being straight, I'll give you a "straight" answer. ;)

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Permalink Reply by Eddie Wetzler on July 11, 2011 at 12:20pm

It's always so easy for those who haven't spent their life being discriminated against, mistreated by society at large, and told in no uncertain terms that there's something wrong with you, to say "geez, what's the problem, lighten up, why be so upset about it?."

The problem isn't with discussing my sexuality, it's the notion that it's perfectly ok to have a fun little forum chat about the reason for my existence. Whether or not I'm beneficial evolutionarily speaking, a biological mistake to be studied in a lab, or poor broken thing that didn't quite turn out right because of a bad childhood. Unless you're onto an answer, and ready to rock the science world with your knowledge, a discussion like this is pointless.

And your right, there's not much mystery in straight sexuality, Tab-A goes into Slot-B, pull the lever and a baby comes out. I'm more interested in the purposeless, uncontrolled breeding by the ignorant and entitled, and what we can do to curb this behavior. So yes, hetero, religious, baby-machines are much more in need of study than gays in my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Arcus on July 11, 2011 at 12:36pm

No one has had fun on your expense here. No one has claimed that homosexuality is not beneficial. No one has made a suggestion to study you in a lab. No one has claimed you didn't turn out right or alright. No one has even called it wrong.

The purpose is not naming and shaming, but an attempt at building understanding such that those who daren't come out because of the reasons you listed have less issues than you had when they decide to do.

In addition, I do not think defining your existence purely based on your sexuality is healthy. Indeed, there is no greater reason for your existence at all apart from the existence itself.

Silencing the discussion to spare feelings is the worst thing anyone can do.

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