Although I greatly admire Hitchen's writings on atheism, let's not forget what a horrendous ass-hat he really was when it came to the Iraq war, neoconism, and the deaths of civilians. Hitchens would never let anyone else slide (see Mother Theresa, Princess Diana) on their moral misgivings and hypocrisies just because they're dead. How do you reconcile celebrating him with these unforgivable lapses in moral judgement? 

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You are to mind your own business.

That is if the other alternative is to outdo Saddam Hussein in killing his own people with a ratio of 100 to 1.

Eh? So you are essentially claiming that the US killed upwards to 200 million Iraqis, or approx 10x the total population of the country?

Seriously you want to go quarreling about the precise number? You go ahead, make a proposal, I won't even bother to respond since it is guaranteed to be self-defeating beforehand.

Well, you brought it up, but I get now that, rather unsurprisingly, it was only demagogic rhetoric and not a point you are willing to argue or stick by.

That's not a number, that's a bunch of unimpressive words lacking in substance.

Then you surely must find it familiar  :)

Really, that's all?

Just write down a number, I'll be quiet and you'll have proven your point, whatever it is.

Yes, that is all.

You brought a number up, I only relayed the implications of your argument. If you wish to retract it as the moronic statement it is, then you may be my guest.

If the US invasion of Iraq had resulted in not one innocent death of Iraqi civilians would you have supported the effort? The Kurds of northern Iraq were thankful to see us.

War sucks, innocent people die. And BTW, I do have mixed feelings about the Bush administration's premise for going into Iraq the second time. Don't forget about Kuwait. 

Was Hussein the worst dictator at that time?  I don't think he was.  While I feel a moral obligation to global affairs, it must come with international action.  Unilaterally taking a democratic nation to war requires much more justification than "he was a brutal dictator".  

Well Hitchens own view on Saddam Hussein has evolved a bit over time. As did earlier neocons. The really strange part of that in connection with this particular argument is that this early support/ encouragement coincides with the Ba'athist regime's most murderous period. Then it must also be noted that many of the critics of the Iraq war(s) were vocal opponents of the Hussein regime back then and remained so, who then got to be called - besides receiving damnation in much stronger terms - hypocrites by these former supporters.

Saddam Hussein's Iraq was a democratic nation? Huh?


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