I found this site from stumble upon and I thought that I would join. I am not a full atheist (I do believe in a God, but the ones created by humans are puny in comparison if there is one), but I reject religions and their attempts to dumb down children. I am a staunch anti-creationist, and I will always fight to keep their ancient ideas out of our science classrooms.
As a Geology student, I feel that creationist are after me as much as they are after biologist since geology explains processes that take so much longer than 10,000 years to work. I even subjected myself to listening to three lectures from "Dr." Grady McMurty (I guess I can be a glutton for torture) where I asked him if everything I have been taught in college was wrong. He told me that not everything I was told was wrong, just most of it. I have been in college for fours years now, and I am nowhere close to being an expert on the subject, and yet these people have the nerve to tell me that they know the truth about what really happened and I have been lied to my whole life.
I believe in rationalism and evidence. I do not take thing based on face value, I want to know the facts, and then make a decision. I the choice came down to voting for two creationist for president, I would rather not vote at all, and not have a helping hand in the possible fall of my country. It's not evolution vs. creationism, it's rationalism vs faith, and I do believe the idea that science takes us to the moon, religion flies us into buildings.
Anyho, that's who I am, and I hope to have some good discussions here.
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Permalink Reply by Nelson on May 7, 2011 at 6:44pm hey Jake! welcome to the community. glad to have you with us.
i look forward to your clarification of the disconnect that lies between these two statements:
I do believe in a God
I believe in rationalism and evidenceWhen I say I do believe in a God, I do not proclaim it as fact and I do not try and support it. Maybe it's the fact that I went to a catholic school for so many years or it has just been engrained in me, but I do not see evidence for it. Maybe I just find some kind of comfort in it. I see it as a personal belief, not something that I need to force on others by preaching, or that I am 100% right and everyone else is wrong. Religion is not any part my life.
As I mentioned before, I am studying to be a scientist and I can't stand when creationist try to use science to support their causes. I completely reject the bible as the infallible word of god. If there is no afterlife, that's fine with me since I find the beauty in the natural world and all the processes that brought me to this point. I find it amazing that I am such a tiny part in the history of the universe, and I plan to make the best out of this one life I have.
I don't know if that clarifies anything, but I will not try and preach the existence of any higher being. I know there is so much pointing against it, and I am fine if there isn't one either.
Permalink Reply by Nelson on May 7, 2011 at 7:21pm My girlfriend has the same issue. She was raised in a Catholic family and went to Catholic school but she doesn't consider herself Catholic or even Christian. Yet, she claims to believe in a God. When I ask her about that God, she says that she worships one binding factor throughout all matter; so basically, she worships a math equationthat hasn't been discovered yet. My question then becomes, what constitutes a God? When I read your words, Jake, I can't help but think that you probably, deep down, worship the earth and her unbelievable power and ability transform herself over an unfathomable amount of time. In my opinion, a God must be all knowing and all powerful; anything else is just tradition and love. Very interesting topic though; thanks for sharing.
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