I found this site from stumble upon and I thought that I would join. I am not a full atheist (I do believe in a God, but the ones created by humans are puny in comparison if there is one), but I reject religions and their attempts to dumb down children. I am a staunch anti-creationist, and I will always fight to keep their ancient ideas out of our science classrooms.

 

As a Geology student, I feel that creationist are after me as much as they are after biologist since geology explains processes that take so much longer than 10,000 years to work. I even subjected myself to listening to three lectures from "Dr." Grady McMurty (I guess I can be a glutton for torture) where I asked him if everything I have been taught in college was wrong. He told me that not everything I was told was wrong, just most of it. I have been in college for fours years now, and I am nowhere close to being an expert on the subject, and yet these people have the nerve to tell me that they know the truth about what really happened and I have been lied to my whole life.

 

I believe in rationalism and evidence. I do not take thing based on face value, I want to know the facts, and then make a decision. I the choice came down to voting for two creationist for president, I would rather not vote at all, and not have a helping hand in the possible fall of my country. It's not evolution vs. creationism, it's rationalism vs faith, and I do believe the idea that science takes us to the moon, religion flies us into buildings.

 

Anyho, that's who I am, and I hope to have some good discussions here.

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hey Jake! welcome to the community. glad to have you with us.

 

i look forward to your clarification of the disconnect that lies between these two statements:

I do believe in a God

I believe in rationalism and evidence

When I say I do believe in a God, I do not proclaim it as fact and I do not try and support it. Maybe it's the fact that I went to a catholic school for so many years or it has just been engrained in me, but I do not see evidence for it. Maybe I just find some kind of comfort in it. I see it as a personal belief, not something that I need to force on others by preaching, or that I am 100% right and everyone else is wrong. Religion is not any part my life.

As I mentioned before, I am studying to be a scientist and I can't stand when creationist try to use science to support their causes. I completely reject the bible as the infallible word of god. If there is no afterlife, that's fine with me since I find the beauty in the natural world and all the processes that brought me to this point. I find it amazing that I am such a tiny part in the history of the universe, and I plan to make the best out of this one life I have.

 

I don't know if that clarifies anything, but I will not try and preach the existence of any higher being. I know there is so much pointing against it, and I am fine if there isn't one either.

 

incredible. cheers for the explanation. 'preciate it.

My girlfriend has the same issue.  She was raised in a Catholic family and went to Catholic school but she doesn't consider herself Catholic or even Christian.  Yet, she claims to believe in a God.  When I ask her about that God, she says that she worships one binding factor throughout all matter; so basically, she worships a math equationthat hasn't been discovered yet.  My question then becomes, what constitutes a God? When I read your words, Jake, I can't help but think that you probably, deep down, worship the earth and her unbelievable power and ability transform herself over an unfathomable amount of time.  In my opinion, a God must be all knowing and all powerful; anything else is just tradition and love.  Very interesting topic though; thanks for sharing.

Welcome to the site, Jake. I'm sure you'll find good conversation here. There are people from all walks of life around this site. They are great people. Anyway, hope to see you around and again welcome.

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