Hi - I'm writing an article for the BBC News website on workplace discrimination against atheists. I have seen a few stories on this site about people who felt excluded by their co-workers or even lost their job after expressing their beliefs. I would like to talk to people who have been through such an experience. You can contact me directly - my email is brianwheelerbbc@gmail.com - or share your stories in this forum.

Brian Wheeler

BBC News, Washington


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I work for a private company wherein many of my coworkers are members of the same evangelical, non-denominational Christian church, and they tend to end sentences with "praise Jesus!" or sing recognizably prosyletizing hymns as they wander the halls. Emails are sent out during the holidays or after someone gives a charitable donation talking about how wonderfully "Christian" the act of giving food to homeless people is, for example. There are even some rumors that you can't get a promotion in this company if you don't go to the same church as the executive vice president. The president/CEO is, however, an agnostic, as far as I know, but this does not keep him from being bigoted on the subject of religion. In fact, I have made complaints to human resources over the president's terrible remarks over the religion of Islam (mostly the regurgitated line about how Islam insists on violence as a religion, whereas Christianity does not -- something we all know isn't true). There is a clear bent towards traditional, white "American" Christianity in this office, regardless of the non-church-member status of the president.

I often travel with a certain Christian colleague, who once told me, given my past as a Christian, I would eventually "come back around". Recently on another trip, I was discussing with this coworker the idea that our offices should be closed over the Christmas holidays -- an idea I support, since it's the traditional time in the USA when many businesses are closed, and not because it's a religious holiday (it's pagan in my book, if anything). We do have clients in a Muslim country, and I suggested that we could have volunteers work and get paid extra to support those clients during this time. My colleague suggested that we should have people who don't celebrate Christmas work during this time, and get their own holy days off as necessary, which I didn't agree with. She then posited that we should have the people who aren't religious work during that time, because "they don't believe in anything". I retorted quickly with, "Of course we believe in things. Family, for one." She backed down, but to me it revealed her utter lack of understanding that atheists are human beings with feelings and beliefs other than those she has in the divine. I avoid discussions of religion and politics as much as I can in the office, and when I am forced to sit in an office and overhear theology, I keep my mouth shut. Nevertheless, it's uncomfortable.

I don't hide my atheism in this office, which means I'm sure I get prayed for, but my beliefs or lack thereof are my business, and not anyone else's. 

When I started my work career back in the late 90s I was still a Christian. If anything I experienced the reverse. People thought me weird for being a Christian. Now that I am not any longer, I can see why as the ideas I were brought up with are rather weird. This was not discrimination in any form though. Just discussion and comments in the workplace.

But then, I live in Norway where Christians are common enough, but fundies are fairly rare.

Lucky you, Veronica.

I take it you work in one of the more educated fields? Atheists are significantly more common among higher college degrees.

I wasn't at that time no. Factory work.

Now I'm in academia, and there are very few religious people around. The few that exist are very liberal.

My experience is the opposite of many of these stories. I am a laser and robotics operator at an aero-space research lab. I am very openly Atheist with my co-workers and so far I have heard absolutely nothing to the contrary. Sure, many of the people I work with probably attend a church on rare occasion but none of them are fundies (christian fundementalists) to my knowledge. I really do think that this is because most of my co-workers are PhDs and such in physics, engineering etc. It has been my experience that higher level education tends to lean toward less fundementalism.

A few years ago a friend of mine was working at a Walmart grocery. She was getting along fine with everyone for several months until the 'holidays' came around and she voiced her stance as an atheist. She was slowly ostracized, and eventually, enough contention built up to where someone slashed her tires.


I won't even harp about the irony and hypocrisy. What gets me is how quickly a social group can become a red vs blue scenario. A simple trigger and religious people go into combat mode.


Today's oxymoron: {onward} Christian Soldier.

@ Giovanni - Did you realize this would happen but was courageous and stood up anyway?

Giovanni, you are a strong couragious intelligent person and I truly respect you. Wow!! Your story is fascinating and I learned so much. Please know that you did the right thing and are a great teacher. It would be an honor to be one of your students. We need teachers like you in the U.S. It took guts to do what you did! I hope you find another teaching job soon. Any students who have you as a teacher are very fortunate! Hang in there!


This is a great place for like-minded people like us to share and when nothing else is possible commiserate and try everything we atheist folks can do to pump other from afar.  I salute you sir and hope that nothing amiss comes your way.

I got to wondering, being in Texas, what the textbooks and study materials are like.  The Texas State School Board even goes so far as to alter textbooks to include as much creationists garbage s possible and to exclude Americans when they think are not of acceptable standards, i.e. who think exactly, or as close as they can, as they do.

Even America needs more teachers of your caliber and quality.  I wish you, as I'm certain others on this site do as well, every success in the future.  Should you ever need a sponsor in the US lete me know, if I can't manage it myself I will find others who can and will.

Giovanni, .  Atheism is a long, lonely & stony road, but it's the only road for people like you & us on this site.  I wish you the very best of luck in your teaching career.  Time is on our side.  Hang tough                               

Spot-on about education being the crux of the matter regarding a progressive society.  Why else would theists of every description make every attempt possible to hold sway over the standards and practice of education.  The old saw, "Get 'em young and you'll have them forever".  That's why they fight us tooth and nail at every opportunity, they're afraid we'll get them young. 

The younger generation in the US is more secular and less religious than ever and it's all due to better education and i give this incredible medium that allows folks of our persuasion to communicate.  Occupy Wall Street is a shining example of positive results.  Google "Occupy Everywhere" or even "Occupy Wall street" and it's all there.  They know we're coming.

Hang in there mate.


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